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  • MIB41
    Eloquent Member
    • Sep 25, 2005
    • 15633

    #31
    I personally enjoyed watching 'Let it be'. I felt most of it was pretty unscripted and that gave alot of insight into why the band was breaking up. Personally I think people have always made too much of that break up. Regardless of their fame and talent, they were still fairly young in the midst of all that. And, like most of us at those ages, your going to evolve and move on to other things. They were all getting married and taking that next step. The Beatles were a kind of 'boys only' club, and that didn't work with band members getting hitched. But it's not like it was Yoko's fault. Her coming to the studio may have pushed things a but quicker. But it was going to happen whether she was in the picture or not. When a band as big as the Beatles breaks up, people want a villain. So they invented one. But what really broke up the Beatles? Life. They were growing up and wanting to be on their own...period.

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    • Mikey
      Verbose Member
      • Aug 9, 2001
      • 47258

      #32
      Personally, I think if it was left up to John the Beatles would have never broken up.

      They would have quietly just stopped working together until they decided to do something again.... Almost like 80's-90's era Pink Floyd.

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      • SeattleEd
        SynthoRes Transmigrator
        • Oct 24, 2007
        • 4351

        #33
        Originally posted by Mikey
        Personally, I think if it was left up to John the Beatles would have never broken up.

        They would have quietly just stopped working together until they decided to do something again.... Almost like 80's-90's era Pink Floyd.
        I agree. Management should have backed off and let them do their own thing. I realize Epstein was looking out for their best interest but Klein was in it for all the money.
        A hiatus for the boys would have seem healthy for them and even post Beatles they still played together and hung out.

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        • kingdom warrior
          OH JES!!
          • Jul 21, 2005
          • 12478

          #34
          Originally posted by Mikey
          Personally, I think if it was left up to John the Beatles would have never broken up.

          They would have quietly just stopped working together until they decided to do something again.... Almost like 80's-90's era Pink Floyd.
          The problem with that is Paul, the showman of the group liked to write and perform. John clearly didn't like that part. Also waiting on the others was not Paul's thing. Plus in all honesty those get back sessions are pretty crappy with a few gems.....Abbey Road was way better and they tried harder to keep it together for that LP.....

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          • Mikey
            Verbose Member
            • Aug 9, 2001
            • 47258

            #35
            I think they shouldn't have broke up,

            Just quietly stopped doing anything

            Paul can even form his band Wings and do his own thing ...

            But, the Beatles would be still on the backburner for an occassional album or even tour.

            In a way, the Beatles would become The Traveling Wilburys

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            • kingdom warrior
              OH JES!!
              • Jul 21, 2005
              • 12478

              #36
              Originally posted by Mikey
              I think they shouldn't have broke up,

              Just quietly stopped doing anything

              Paul can even form his band Wings and do his own thing ...

              But, the Beatles would be still on the backburner for an occassional album or even tour.

              In a way, the Beatles would become The Traveling Wilburys
              I think that was Paul Just giving John the big F U at the time......they were blaming each other for all kinds of petty BS by then....sure cooler heads prevailed later because they were away from each other but John and Paul had huge egos and George no longer wanted to live in their shadows and Ring....well Ringo Just wanted to stay employed.....

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              • MIB41
                Eloquent Member
                • Sep 25, 2005
                • 15633

                #37
                The Beatles were simply too big to be left off to the side. That's one thing I vividly remember about the early 70's - Rumors would abound all the time on television, that the Beatles 'might be' performing at a big event. So they would carry the event, whatever it might be, just in case it happened. This was well before the communication age. So there was plenty of disinformation constantly floating about. And the media would make a big deal about it. Of course this was back in the day too when if a program was preempted and there wasn't sufficient time left to play the original show without screwing up the whole evening, local programming would put on something like Ultraman (during prime time) just to get you to the top of the hour. We live in such an entirely different era today. Information is so quickly processed, it's impossible to keep up with everything. Today's generation has no idea just how big they really were. In many ways, it's probably a good thing they did breakup. They were around just long enough to grow the reputation they did. At one point the Monkees were actually outselling both them and the Rolling Stones. So it's hard to fathom what might have happened had they tried to stay together and make it work.
                You have to remember glam rock and disco became all the rage in the 70's. The Beatles were well known for incorporating current trends to enhance their tunes. Imagine a disco song from the Beatles? Yeah, I think they did the right thing by breaking up. It keeps their sense of musical "royalty"and timelessness in place.

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                • kingdom warrior
                  OH JES!!
                  • Jul 21, 2005
                  • 12478

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MIB41

                  You have to remember glam rock and disco became all the rage in the 70's. The Beatles were well known for incorporating current trends to enhance their tunes. Imagine a disco song from the Beatles? Yeah, I think they did the right thing by breaking up. It keeps their sense of musical "royalty"and timelessness in place.
                  Glam and Disco were short lived quick Fads from the 70's. Rock and Roll was the norm....I seriously doubt they would have moved towards that especially because it never showed up in their Solo work.....

                  What they missed was a chance for them to do better live work and people actually sitting and listening instead of little girls screaming......

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                  • Nostalgiabuff
                    Muddling through
                    • Oct 4, 2008
                    • 11423

                    #39
                    I think John was done with the whole Beatles thing. it was really Paul who kept trying to keep it together. John even said it was Paul who needed the Beatles. it was Paul who was so lost after their breakup. I agree a break from each other would have been beneficial but then all the lawsuits started and those did not get resolved until the late eighties so there would have been no reunion until that point. they were starting to talk again the year John was killed so I do believe they were on the road to a reunion but sadly it was not to be.
                    I will also say, that not having seen them all together again until they did the Anthology series, they looked very odd together as old men, since we had not seen them together since they were in their 20's.
                    I also think, that had they stayed together and continued putting out albums and maybe even occasional tours, that they would have become somewhat characatures of themselves, like the Stones and the Who have done. yeah the tours still make money but noone cares about their newer music. it has no relevance anymore

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                    • kingdom warrior
                      OH JES!!
                      • Jul 21, 2005
                      • 12478

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nostalgiabuff
                      I also think, that had they stayed together and continued putting out albums and maybe even occasional tours, that they would have become somewhat characatures of themselves, like the Stones and the Who have done. yeah the tours still make money but noone cares about their newer music. it has no relevance anymore
                      Great point.... the Greatest Elvis Impersonator was Elvis himself at the very end he was nowhere near his former glory and it was sad to see the bloated mess he had become.......and I'm a huge Elvis Fan but it's hard to look at him at the end.

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                      • MIB41
                        Eloquent Member
                        • Sep 25, 2005
                        • 15633

                        #41
                        Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                        Glam and Disco were short lived quick Fads from the 70's. Rock and Roll was the norm....I seriously doubt they would have moved towards that especially because it never showed up in their Solo work.....

                        What they missed was a chance for them to do better live work and people actually sitting and listening instead of little girls screaming......
                        I have to differ on that statement...

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRCgueckAXE

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6y4uY1WvTA

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                        • Mikey
                          Verbose Member
                          • Aug 9, 2001
                          • 47258

                          #42
                          This talk reminds of the book Paperback Writer

                          Anybody ever read it ?

                          The Beatles have a reunion in 76 when Frampton is the new king

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                          • kingdom warrior
                            OH JES!!
                            • Jul 21, 2005
                            • 12478

                            #43
                            Originally posted by MIB41
                            it has a good beat and you can dance to it...... I just don't think of Paul's stuff as disco......

                            Ringo looks like an idiot in that video.....
                            John Looks cool though

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                            • Blue Meanie
                              Talkative Member
                              • Jun 23, 2001
                              • 8706

                              #44
                              The reason for Let It Be not being released is the fact that McCartney doesn't want it released. It's that simple. He doesn't want people associating/blaming him with the breakup of the Beatles. I've sat through this movie about 5 times, been upgrading my copies over the years from VHS to Selectavision to Laserdisc, and the one scene you need to look at is when George is talking back to Macca during one of the rehearsals... "I'll play what you want or I won't play at all" and Paul says to George "I'm not out to get you...but you seem to think I am and I'm not" (Paraphrasing) Tensions had gotten so high during the rehearsals that it's just an unbearable movie to watch. The ONLY good thing about Let It Be is the Rooftop concert. They are having a blast...not only did they tick off THE MAN by doing the show in the middle of a work day...but they stopped traffic. You could see that they were enjoying it. If they do nothing else with the movie...just give me that Rooftop Concert in its entirety. I think they did Get Back 3 times. The shame of Anthology is that they gave you a tease of a BEAUTIFUL widescreen cleaned up print of Rooftop performance.

                              BTW, McCartney is the biggest control freak there is...don't be fooled by his "Show" face when he is being interviewed. My biggest complaint about Wingspan is that you don't see any members of Wings...Not even Denny Laine...being interviewed or asked about his experience in the groups multiple lineups. That right there shows you that Paul wants people to see his side of the picture. That's why you won't see a Let It Be release. Again, just give me the Rooftop show and I'll be happy.
                              "When not too many people can see we're all the same
                              And because of all their tears,
                              Their eyes can't hope to see
                              The beauty that surrounds them
                              Isn't it a pity".

                              - "Isn't It A Pity"
                              By George Harrison


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                              • Nostalgiabuff
                                Muddling through
                                • Oct 4, 2008
                                • 11423

                                #45
                                Wingspan was a total McCartney production. since he is not on speaking terms with any of the former Wings members there is no way he would include them in any part of it. yes he is a total control freak and totally controls his public image. which is why you never, ever get any dirt from him. he learned a long time ago not to reveal anything to the media.
                                I am not so sure he is the only one blocking Let it Be from being released. that scene meanie just mentioned is on the Anthology series so anyone could see how high tensions were running

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