TV's Greatest Icons List

[huedell]

I don't think so. His role did not play a prevalent part for most of the Cheers series until near the end. Using the logic above, Robin Williams should be on the list since he was on Happy Days and the spinoff Mork & Mindy but I don't think he should make the cut.

Speaking of which, Ron Howard is another one who seems like he should be on the list. I have to think Opie Taylor and Richie Cunningham are more recognizable to more people than Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Maybe because some of the actors like Ted Danson and Ron Howard broke it big into movies, they lost some of their TV icon status but then again George Clooney is on the list so again some of the choices don't seem to make sense to me anyway.

I guarantee if you were to show a picture of Bugs Bunny to 100 people at random, regardless of age, Bugs Bunny would be more recognizable than Homer Simpson.

a. Williams only appeared on 2 or 3 episoides of Happy Days---Kelsey Grammer
appeared on what... a hundred maybe...episodes of Cheers? And Frasier ran a LOT
longer than Mork & MIndy

b. I agree with you---omitting Ron Howard seems to be pretty wrong---
again, I think they are rationaliziong this with the fact that his co-stars
on both shows were included and that Ron was a successful movie director
too---not that that is a good philosophy in making this list---remember
despite certain points I'm trying to make here---I still think this list could
use a lot of rethinking

c. I don't think Ted Danson qualifies as breaking "big" into movies---Clooney
on the other hand...

and

d. Bugs is a HUGE icon---but maybe they percieve him more like a film star
like, say, the THREE STOOGES or THE LITTLE RASCALS (who also spent
alotta syndicated time on TV but started as film clips)

Bugs had a LOT of time on the small screen---but a lot of what he did was
used for the big screen (and still is every few years...Space Jam...Back In
Action...etc.)

Fred Flintstone on the other hand...

[Adam West]

Now that I think of it, I remember seeing Julia Child's kitchen from her tv series in the Smithsonian the last time I visited (about a year or two ago).

She's been doing cooking shows since the 1960's and I still see reruns of some of her shows today. She has been parodied on shows like SNL and was a major pioneer for a channel like the Food Network.

It's not worth discussing anymore. I'm sure they had their reasons for who they picked but it does appear that there are some icons that have stood the test of time and deserve to be on the list more so than some of the names.

[Adam West]

[QUOTE=huedell;60179]
c. I don't think Ted Danson qualifies as breaking "big" into movies---Clooney
on the other hand...
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I'm not saying Ted Danson is a huge box office draw but I'd say Three Men and a Baby and Saving Private Ryan were pretty successful. Clooney has had as many stinkers as he has had hits.

[huedell]

[QUOTE=Adam West;60185]

c. I don't think Ted Danson qualifies as breaking "big" into movies---Clooney
on the other hand...
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I'm not saying Ted Danson is a huge box office draw but I'd say Three Men and a Baby and Saving Private Ryan were pretty successful. Clooney has had as many stinkers as he has had hits.

Danson was so unsuccessful as a movie star that he didn't even have the
high profile "stinkers" that Clooney was afforded

We disagree about the perspective there that's cool --- but I am just
under the impression that if Clooney is a huge movie star raking in millions
of dollars a flick and if Clooney is a "Sexiest Man Of The Year"
in recent years for PEOPLE Magazine while Danson lingers more on TV
reruns than anything else (let alone movies) that Clooney's movie success
HUGELY overshadows Danson's

But let's get back to T.V. shall we...

As far as cooking show stars----as far as icons go---they are pretty
designated to their respective eras without much bleed thru to the present
pop icon consciousness----but Martha Stewart (she's "kinda" of a cooking
icon) now THERE"S a significant overall icon in my opinion

[Hulk]

Besides pointing out the fact that this list is doing EXACTLY what it is supposed to do (generate buzz and debate), I'd like to point out that there are 3 Megos, one CTVT, and lots of customs on the list.

Good point Paul!

[huedell]

Good point Paul!

Awww geez.

Paul ---does it help that I was thinking "Paul made a good post"
anyways

[Zemo]

If Huedell watched T.V from 75-99 all the time like you state and have no clue who James Garner is or the Rockford Files, You could not have been watching T.V in North America. No Way.

And It had of the best theme songs of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5pYtG_jo3o

[jwyblejr]

If they have someone like Roseanne and Homer Simpson on this list,why can't they have someone like Bob Denver?

[supes]

How does Calista Flockhart get on this list? That just shows the intelligence of those that made the list.

[huedell]

Bob Denver is a must----I too think they dropped the ball on that one

[huedell]

If Huedell watched T.V from 75-99 all the time like you state and have no clue who James Garner is or the Rockford Files, You could not have been watching T.V in North America. No Way.

And It had of the best theme songs of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5pYtG_jo3o

Actually I WAS in N. America during those years, watching a heckload of
TV---and interestingly--- although I don't recognize the intro montage to the
Rockford Files show----the theme song is very familliar.

[The Toyroom]

Not sure if this will satisfy some people (myself included) but here's the remainder of the list, 51-100, as published in this week's EW:

51. Bob Hope
52. Ron Howard
53. Ed McMahon
54. Florence Henderson
55. Fred Rogers
56. Betty White
57. Charlie Brown
58. Don Knotts
59. Ted Danson
60. Merv Griffin
61. Paul Reubens
62. Redd Foxx
63. Ed Asner
64. Phil Donahue
65. Pamela Anderson
66. Kelsey Grammer
67. Tom Selleck
68. Don Cornelius
69. Barbara Eden
70. Bob Denver
71. Rosie O'Donnell
72. Cher
73. Tony Danza
74. Joan Rivers
75. Peter Falk
76. Candice Bergen
77. James Garner
78. Art Carney
79. Angela Lansbury
80. Adam West
81. Dick Cavett
82. Ted Knight
83. Isabel Sanford
84. Cartman
85. Rod Serling
86. Jerry Mathers
87. Phil Hartman
88. Gavin McLeod
89. Robert Guillaume
90. John Stamos
91. Dennis Franz
92. Judge Judy
93. Neil Patrick Harris
94. Melissa Gilbert
95. Richard Dawson
96. Shannen Doherty
97. "In Living Color"
98. Meredith Baxter
99. Delta Burke
100. Marcia Cross

[jwyblejr]

The rest of the list isn't much better. How does a show make that list? Looking at you #97.

[The Toyroom]

It's similar to Saturday Night Live's "Not Ready For Prime Time Players" making the list (although no where near as talented as the SNL group)...the "In Living Color" cast doesn't have a catchy troupe name though.

[jwyblejr]

How does Adam West wind up so low on the list? How many generations know him as Batman? How many high school and college kids know him as the mayor from Family Guy? How many little kids know him as the crazy old guy from Fairly Odd Parents that dresses like a cat? Okay,bad example on the last one but you get my point.