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**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone
He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time
You'd be singing a different tune had that scenario been reversed...a Jet Player and a Dolphin coach...
Watching Letterman right now and he just equated what this guy from the Jets got busted for to the fact that Favre took an "offensive snap" of his junk (photographic proof exists of both) and what has the NFL done to Favre.
lol He's retiring anyways so that's why they won't even bother...plus he really didn't break any laws...the chick didn't even care
but what about the other thing the jets did this year, another coach throwing balls towards the hot reporter and pretty much sexually harassing her, it's a low class organization and everyone knows it
Watching Letterman right now and he just equated what this guy from the Jets got busted for to the fact that Favre took an "offensive snap" of his junk (photographic proof exists of both) and what has the NFL done to Favre.
What Favre did was off the field, BUT it was within the jurisdiction of the league.
D, I get your point, too and it is exactly what the NFL will say.
As it relates to Vick...your words, "The guy was a bad *** athlete, he's a jerk but I guess everyone deserves a 2nd chance, now he's working with the Humane Society."
I'm not trying to play "gotcha". In fact, I have two minds on this subject and I'm seeing a lot of angles. I am just using you as an example of how we (and that apparently includes me), as fans, can make a distinction between "off the field" actions and what takes place on the field AND between the actions of a Regular Joe and a Superstar.
no i see what you guys mean, but keep in mind Vick's actions weren't on the football field and he still got fired and went to jail...was it enough punishment for what he did? i say hell no, but that's what the law said he had to do and he did it
now i believe this guy should get fired, let him start from fresh somewhere else, if later on he gets another shot then good for him...he's only sorry cause he got caught, i bet anything if there wasn't video to prove it, this idiot would be denying this
**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone
He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time
D, I get your point, too and it is exactly what the NFL will say.
As it relates to Vick...your words, "The guy was a bad *** athlete, he's a jerk but I guess everyone deserves a 2nd chance, now he's working with the Humane Society."
I'm not trying to play "gotcha". In fact, I have two minds on this subject and I'm seeing a lot of angles. I am just using you as an example of how we (and that apparently includes me), as fans, can make a distinction between "off the field" actions and what takes place on the field AND between the actions of a Regular Joe and a Superstar.
**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone
He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time
The guy deserves a second chance...jut like many other thugs NFL players have gotten (Michael Vick anyone?)...that assistant coach is just a working stiff...he's not getting millions...this will hurt him and his family...he can't take a financial hit as well as those multi-millionaire players.
Yes, he did a dumbass move...but the end result was not devastating...it's over...just continue with the suspension...but let him work again.
If he's canned...then the NFL is the biggest hypocrite of them all.
Hector, I totally see your point and I agree 100%, though I had to change my mind about it (based on your point about the forgiveness of Michael Vick and the position of a lowly "working stiff").
However, I will tell you why I don't think the NFL will see it that way and it points to why they can justify being hypocritical.
They will never have to admit that they bent the rules for Vick or Roethlisburger or any other number of player (as a Superstar and therefore, "Revenue Stream") because what those guys did took place off the field and this was clearly on the field and aimed at an opposing player (as opposed to a dog or a "civilian") . That being the case, they can do whatever they want.
The guy deserves a second chance...just like many other thug NFL players have gotten (Michael Vick anyone?)...that assistant coach is just a working stiff...he's not getting millions...this will hurt him and his family...he can't take a financial hit as well as those multi-millionaire players.
Yes, he did a dumbass move...but the end result was not devastating...it's over...just continue with the suspension...but let him work again.
If he's canned...then the NFL is the biggest hypocrite of them all.
Yeah, that cost him his job, but it was the final straw in a string of punching reporters, assaulting game officials, and creating a culture where his players were known to punch opposing teams.
One of Woody's friends once said of him, "Woody's idea of sublimating is to hit someone."
What's amazing to me in watching that clip is how Keith Jackson and Ara Parseghian could call the game and not realize what cleared the benches.
The first thing I thought of when I heard about the Jets incident was Tommy Lewis coming off the bench to tackle Dicky Maegle in the 1954 Cotton Bowl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCf3WqVyx4
Now, that was spontaneous....he didn't even have a helmet on!
I remember seeing a clip of Tommy Lewis on the Ed Sullivan show and he said something to the effect of, "Mr. Sullivan, I guess I was just so full of Alabama."
Stupid is making a bad, on the spot, decision to do something stupid. Doing what he allegedly did by lining people up to interfere with a player is premeditated cheating and is cause for loss of job, IMO.
They brought this exact thing up today on Boston sports radio. For those not aware of how serious sports radio here gets take every where else in the world and multiply by 20. It has more listeners than the music stations. WEEI is broadcast on 4 different frequencies in Boston, Providence RI, Springfield MA, and Maine. We're really serious, we hate the Jets, and most think he's being over punished for this.
If you watch any game you will see exactly what they did, done on every sideline. They've got a ton of video of other teams sidelines. There is a box, much like the coaches box in baseball, that they are supposed to stand in. They were not but that is not uncommon. It has become a topic only because of what happened.
I can't believe I'm defending the Jets! The lining up and where they were standing is not unseen. It truly was just a stupid impulse thing. He was an idiot, but it was hardly the worst thing that's happened in football. Fine him and let him get on with his life.
I can't wait to see what they do to Favre if they decide he sent lude pictures to that Jet assistant. Now that's a premeditated dumb *** thing to do for a married guy that has a wife battling cancer at home. That decision should come down in a couple of days.
I'm not saying what the coach did was right but sometimes the players need to be careful when they go along the sidelines like that. Never know what kind of bone headed thing will happen.
I'm a life long fin fan and its was cheap as it comes, at first I thought he should be fired on the spot, but I have softened on that and think he got what he deserves "under the jets game plan"
Stupid is making a bad, on the spot, decision to do something stupid. Doing what he allegedly did by lining people up to interfere with a player is premeditated cheating and is cause for loss of job, IMO.
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