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  • alex
    Permanent Member
    • Jun 15, 2009
    • 3142

    #16
    first snow as well here today in Poland, had to clean the car this morning, thankgod for heated car seats

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    • JDeRouen
      Author of Small Things
      • Jun 14, 2001
      • 16568

      #17
      Weird weather in any directions is actually evidence of global warming (or more accurately, global climate change) and that said... yesterday in Rogers, Arkansas, it was 70 degrees. Today, it's 29. Crazy.
      --
      Order Small Things, my contemporary fantasy novel featuring Megos, at http://joederouen.com/?page_id=176

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      • Megotu
        jerk
        • Dec 16, 2001
        • 10738

        #18
        Warming is still accurate. Warming is Energy as far as weather patterns are concerned. I think some people associate the term with a gentle rise of a couple of degrees all over across the board. They don't see that all warmth would increase in intensity as a result of putting more energy into the great engine of global weather..
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        • johnmiic
          Adrift
          • Sep 6, 2002
          • 8427

          #19
          I have read that 1 signature of Global Climate Change is that where it's cold-it will get colder and where it's warm-it will get warmer.

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          • toyman
            Just Another Collector
            • Sep 1, 2008
            • 952

            #20
            Well it usually has snowed several inches here in southern WV several times but we haven't seen any as of now and it was in the mid 60's today.I think I am one of a few wanting the snow,I think it makes it feel more like the christmas season.

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            • david_b
              Never had enough toys..
              • May 9, 2008
              • 2305

              #21
              Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen....

              Dare I remind you all again I spent March through October in the 120s...??

              I now back in Wisconsin, tundra is quickly approaching, my snow shovel is ready (snowblowers are for wusses..), and I'm luvin' it..!!!!

              "Bring it on, cupcake.."

              david_b
              Peace.. Through Superior Firepower.

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              • mego73
                Printed paperboard Tiger
                • Aug 1, 2003
                • 6690

                #22
                Originally posted by johnmiic
                I have read that 1 signature of Global Climate Change is that where it's cold-it will get colder and where it's warm-it will get warmer.

                The signs of global warming are getting so broad, that it's beginning to look ridiculous. It reminds me of fire and brimstone religious people taking any and all crisis's as a sign of the coming apocalypse.

                [email protected]

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                • johnmiic
                  Adrift
                  • Sep 6, 2002
                  • 8427

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kryptosmaster
                  I'll say it one time.
                  READ MY LIPS:There is no such thing as global warming!
                  I won't go into my reasons because it would open up a can of political worms.
                  It's already been proven that the "scientists" made up statistics about it.

                  Rich
                  I'm sorry but if you're not a scientist, you're no expert, so you cannot claim to know for sure and if you can't go onto it for political reasons then you truly do not know for sure. Claiming Global Climate change is a hoax is usually the battle cry for Conservatives who do not trust in science anyway.

                  So you should not be posting this in the first place as you are turning this thread political for your own satisfaction.

                  As for scientists making it up, that's not entirely true. That was in the news a year or so ago and it was investigated. It was discovered that hackers broke into a server of a British climate research centre and messed with the emails.

                  CBC News - Technology Science - Hackers skewed climate-change emails: scientists

                  Climategate - Innocent | Climate Change | Global Warming | Mediaite

                  | FactCheck.org
                  Last edited by johnmiic; Nov 26, '10, 12:56 PM.

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                  • david_b
                    Never had enough toys..
                    • May 9, 2008
                    • 2305

                    #24
                    Politics aside...., I don't have much faith in the entire concept of warming. Just not enough facts to fit the model. I still recall the 70s study that scientists reported 'global cooling', 'the coming ice age', with equal concern being shown.

                    Obviously we didn't have the Internet back then, but the scientific community was still as resoundingly convinced this would occur.
                    Peace.. Through Superior Firepower.

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                    • Mikey
                      Verbose Member
                      • Aug 9, 2001
                      • 47258

                      #25
                      For global warming whether it get's warm or cool I don't care because i'll be dead by then.

                      Let future generations worry about it.

                      In a few billion years the sun is going to blow up and destroy the earth

                      That don't mean we should start thinking about ways to prevent it

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                      • Tyme2tyme
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 3, 2008
                        • 418

                        #26
                        Didn't this subject get me a slap on the wrist (and deleted thread) a while back? Man-made global warming is a hoax (but you didn't hear that from me!!), JOHN
                        Livin' the American Dream!

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                        • jimsmegos
                          Mego Dork
                          • Nov 9, 2008
                          • 4519

                          #27
                          Having to chirp in my two cents... My biggest reasoning for NOT buying into global warming comes from one source... an almanac. So long as there have been record highs and lows I find it hard to believe that all of the sudden the end is near as far as warming goes. Anybody ever study up on the "Dust Bowl"? Plus are we as a species so arrogant to think that we can actually change the fate of the Earth when we still can't cure the common cold?

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                          • david_b
                            Never had enough toys..
                            • May 9, 2008
                            • 2305

                            #28
                            I firmly believe the solution is to create international 'Mego Collection Points'. I volunteer my locale as a suitable location.

                            Hey, just taking one for the team, man..

                            david_b
                            Peace.. Through Superior Firepower.

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                            • Brazoo
                              Permanent Member
                              • Feb 14, 2009
                              • 4767

                              #29
                              Originally posted by johnmiic
                              I'm sorry but if you're not a scientist, you're no expert, so you cannot claim to know for sure and if you can't go onto it for political reasons then you truly do not know for sure. Claiming Global Climate change is a hoax is usually the battle cry for Conservatives who do not trust in science anyway.

                              So you should not be posting this in the first place as you are turning this thread political for your own satisfaction.

                              As for scientists making it up, that's not entirely true. That was in the news a year or so ago and it was investigated. It was discovered that hackers broke into a server of a British climate research centre and messed with the emails.

                              CBC News - Technology Science - Hackers skewed climate-change emails: scientists

                              Climategate - Innocent | Climate Change | Global Warming | Mediaite

                              | FactCheck.org
                              Yeah - I think johnmiic has a good point. It seems like you guys are making this thread something it wasn't. But since we're on the topic, there are a few things I just don't get about some of your comments.

                              I've never heard of a climatologist that didn't think that global warming was happening. I thought the debate was about how man-made CO2s might be contributing to it or if it's strictly a natural part of the Earth's climate cycle.

                              Either way, global warming will inevitably suck - and we should try to figure out what's happening without the influence of politics mucking up both viewpoints.

                              The consensus of science so far agrees that CO2s are a likely contributing factor - and I've never heard a reasonable argument for why we shouldn't try to pollute less even if that opinion is wrong.

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                              • mego73
                                Printed paperboard Tiger
                                • Aug 1, 2003
                                • 6690

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tyme2tyme
                                Didn't this subject get me a slap on the wrist (and deleted thread) a while back? Man-made global warming is a hoax (but you didn't hear that from me!!), JOHN

                                Not exactly, this planet has warming and cooling. The planet's climate changes all the time. We really can't change that and science is no where near advanced enough to figure out the mechanics of it (something that they don't really want to admit most of the time).

                                All the climate science (whether it strives to be accurate or not and we now know some don't strive for accuracy but for a specific conclusion because that is where the grant money is) is based on less than 200 years of tracking and a lot of that tracking is inaccurate to begin with due to the shortcomings of methods of the past.

                                There are limited means of projecting climate history accurately beyond that. Looking at the rings in trees gives some information. Taking C02 readings from deep inside glaciers is another. Neither is enough to give a comprehensive enough view of past climate ages in relation to the climate we have now.

                                Such shortcomings in tracking the past climate changes and the varying declarations of the "effects" of global warming (some scientists *do* say that it means more extreme cold and hot weather but others say it means more overall hot weather. I have seen the "symptoms" shift through the years) just contribute to people's "common sense" alarms about some of this stuff.

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