Conspiracy Theories?

[Werewolf]

actually, If you look at the leap in technology between the roswell supposed crash, and the end of the cold war, the leaps and bounds are scary.....

There was a show on the History Channel recently that debunks that myth. There were no leaps and bounds. Just dedicated men and women that worked hard their entire lives to develop these advances. To say aliens made that stuff is an insult to all their hard work and dedication.

Besides, there's no way we could even reverse engineer a broken piece of technology from an alien craft that is supposedly hundreds if not thousands years ahead of our technology. It would be like giving a few broken peices of a Blu-Ray player to a Neanderthal and expect them to make a new one. They wouldn't understand even what the hell it was let alone have the skills or technology to make a new one. Same with us on reverse-engineering broken alien tech centuries beyond our understanding.

Not going to happen.

[Brazoo]

Not to stir anyone up but have any of you shot many firearms?When Persident Kennedy was shot his head went in the direction in which the shot was to have came from,when you shoot something it goes in the same direction of the shot not against it.Just food for thought.

WARNING - Graphic descriptions and some bad language. Please forgive me!

I have no experience with fire arms, but I did see this a little while ago. I'm not a huge fan of the show "Bullsh*t", but this demonstration might show how it's possible:

Penn Teller JFK Jet effect bull**** Lee Harvey Oswald

skepticwiki.org claims this: "Newtonian principle explains why JFK's head would have moved towards the shooter. The bullet doesn't meet much resistance as it enters and is going pretty much the same speed when it exits, but as it exits it also takes lots of pieces of skull and brain with it. This makes a kind of jet blast which propels the head in the opposite direction. This effect is easily confirmed by wrapping a melon in one-inch fibreglass tape and shooting it with a high-powered rifle. The melon actually moves toward the shooter"

If you use firearms regularly maybe you could recreate this experiment?

[bizzaro megomauler]

Ask yourself this with Roswell,if something crashed,why didn't we use the technology from said craft? The Cold War could have ended sooner and so would the Space Race. We had guys like Albert Einstein,Werner Von Braun working for our government. They couldn't figure it out? No cover-up with 9/11. bin Laden was determined to blow up the World Trade Center. He did try in 1997,didn't he? Oswald was the lone gunman. He was just a loser who wanted to be famous. Simple as that.

actually, If you look at the leap in technology between the roswell supposed crash, and the end of the cold war, the leaps and bounds are scary.....

[toyman]

I am same as you Teach,I don't hunt but I do shoot a lot of different guns,pistol's and rifle's and have never had a target come towards me after the impact of the shot.

[txteach]

I own a 9 mm and shot a lot in the service.
i actually love shooting BUT hate hunting. Can't see killing something I'm not going to eat. If someone hunts though more power to them. The whole direction of Kennedy's head always made me wonder. How does a bullet from behind make one's head move backwards?

[toyman]

Not to stir anyone up but have any of you shot many firearms?When Persident Kennedy was shot his head went in the direction in which the shot was to have came from,when you shoot something it goes in the same direction of the shot not against it.Just food for thought.

[jwyblejr]

Conspiracy theories? YEs there are many, but only 1 truth viewed from multiple perspectives. Alien coverups in Area -51, why not? I have always thought it popmus for us to believe that we are not only alone, but first. Life as we know it is a different story all together. Kennedy was murdered by multiple gunners, and speaking as a New Yorker directly affected by the events of 9/11, i would have to say, yes there was government involvement/substancial coverups, hands down. and my favorite? The Montauk Project. STRANGE THINGS used to happen here in the 70's/80's

Ask yourself this with Roswell,if something crashed,why didn't we use the technology from said craft? The Cold War could have ended sooner and so would the Space Race. We had guys like Albert Einstein,Werner Von Braun working for our government. They couldn't figure it out? No cover-up with 9/11. bin Laden was determined to blow up the World Trade Center. He did try in 1997,didn't he? Oswald was the lone gunman. He was just a loser who wanted to be famous. Simple as that.

[Brazoo]

THIS. That's the thing about conspiracies, though - they're sexier than any true explanation.

Yeah - I also think that part of the allure of conspiracy theories is that we all inherently tend to believe that a BIG event requires a BIG explanation. It's hard to believe when a car accident or a crazy gunman can take down an important and iconic figurehead - emotionally anyway.

Best thing to do is do your own research - watch the videos, listen to different opinions, really read and study everything, then form your own opinion.

Totally! Watch "Loose Change" or "Zeitgeist", and actually go through the quotes one by one that are used to support their arguments. Search for the original sources of the quotes, (I've done this for both movies) you'll find so many examples of misquotes or comments taken completely out of context. Look for the details these films are ignoring or just getting wrong.

For example, when these films site the 9/11 Commission Report take a look at the actual report and see what it says - the full report is published online in a PDF and it's fully searchable. If you believe what these movies are saying I think you'll be surprised.

When Zeitgeist is quoting biblical sources during Part 1 search for the actual passages in the Old and New Testament. They get it wrong 80% of the time.

If they're getting this stuff so wrong how can the rest of it be right?

[txteach]

No problem Bryan. Your still a buddy!

[sauce]

Hey txteach, I just wanted to say that I've reflected on my postings on this thread, and I do have a political/rant edge. I think I can't separate that from anything that I would take the time to post here, so I'll lay off.

[bizzaro megomauler]

Conspiracy theories? YEs there are many, but only 1 truth viewed from multiple perspectives. Alien coverups in Area -51, why not? I have always thought it popmus for us to believe that we are not only alone, but first. Life as we know it is a different story all together. Kennedy was murdered by multiple gunners, and speaking as a New Yorker directly affected by the events of 9/11, i would have to say, yes there was government involvement/substancial coverups, hands down. and my favorite? The Montauk Project. STRANGE THINGS used to happen here in the 70's/80's

[Zemo]

I hope I get to live long enough to see human beings get smarter.

and this is pretty accurate . . .
http://www.oilempire.us/oil-jpg/JONI...-Ourselves.gif

lol

[sauce]

I hope I get to live long enough to see human beings get smarter.

and this is pretty accurate . . .

[Werewolf]

One can argue conspiracy just about anywhere, really.

Pick any catastrophe

That's because people love to point fingers instead of take responsibility. It's easier and more comforting for some people to blame some nebulous secret group than accept the hard fact that people can be stupid, lazy, incompetent or unprepared and sometimes no matter how prepared we might be or think we are, bad things are still going to happen out of our control.

[Timothy2251]

I can understand how the urgency and lack of communication just after 9/11 caused a lot of suspicion and panic that created the conspiracy theories - what I don't get is how an inside job conspiracy theory that would have involved millions of dollars and involved hundreds if not thousands of Americans - without a single whistle blower among them - is more plausible than terrorism.

Occam's Razor folks!

THIS. That's the thing about conspiracies, though - they're sexier than any true explanation. Also, IMHO (so as not to offend anyone here on the boards and their beliefs) lots of folks don't want to believe that such things like 9/11 can happen here. In the Middle East, sure, because it's happened there so often, and has been extensively documented. But here? Nope! The only way something like this could've happened was it being an inside job, hence it's a conspiracy.

Best thing to do is do your own research - watch the videos, listen to different opinions, really read and study everything, then form your own opinion.