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  • johnmiic
    Adrift
    • Sep 6, 2002
    • 8427

    #31
    Originally posted by megocrazy
    USPS - Government Run and a complete fiasco. Coincidence I think not.
    Gotta dis-agree with you there Chuck. USPS is part-privately owned. It's not a total Govt. run operation. I don't know to what degree though. If perhaps they ran the USPS like Social Security - usually no senior misses a check, or the IRS which seems to have arms longer than "the law", the organization might be better run.

    Mail-handlers do have a tough job and I think they unfairly get a bad rep. They do move millions upon millions of letters and packages on a daily basis.
    We hear about the bad apples in the USPS more than the good ones because a reliable mail carrier story is boring but someone who snaps and gets a gun and starts shooting their co-workers is ratings gold on TV. In a poll a few years ago the USPS came out on top for most employee complaints/most employee dissatisfaction.

    I had also heard for the past few years they were actually considering opening Sundays providing 7 days a week service, ( at least 2 banks here in NY do that now). That would be great if they could make a profit but won't help if the organization is badly run.

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    • SlipperyLilSuckers
      MeGoing
      • May 14, 2003
      • 9031

      #32
      Originally posted by Mikey01
      You should stay here and be a permanent American
      I'm glad you guys think I should stay. It's very tempting. I will certainly be staying here a lot more in future.

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      • SlipperyLilSuckers
        MeGoing
        • May 14, 2003
        • 9031

        #33
        Originally posted by toys2cool
        I do the same with my 360 but the movies they have aren't the best

        Have you watched Spartacus the tv show? I highly recommend it Cat
        Just saw this. Thanks Damien I will check it out!

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        • English Paul
          Archive cased.
          • Aug 17, 2005
          • 1734

          #34
          Originally posted by MegoSteve
          The problem is that USPS is legally forced to serve areas that are unprofitable. They don't have the freedom other companies have in dropping routes and closing offices, because Congressman A from Podunkville will kick up a fuss if you close the post office in his district, even though there's a bigger newer one a few minutes' car ride away. They are in a unique position; they are financially independent from the government, yet the government oversees them and forces them to follow laws other companies don't have to.

          They literally go everywhere in the U.S., places FedEx and UPS won't go. I remember seeing a TV report a while ago about how they had to fly a small plane through backwoods Idaho to deliver mail to residents, and it was costing them a ridiculous amount of money... they tried cutting the flights, but Idaho congressmen and their constituents got upset so they had to reinstate it even though it was costing them $48,000 a year.

          The other problem is that they legally have to pre-fund their retirement health benefits. According to a recent editorial written by the postmaster general, that's where the bulk of their losses have occurred.

          I am not affiliated with the post office at all, but I think they get a lot of crap flung their way that they mostly don't deserve. What other company can get an actual physical letter anywhere in the United States for only 44 cents?
          It is exactly the same here. The competition can cherry pick the best bits leaving Royal Mail with the parts of the country no one else will touch. Hardly a level playing field. Royal Mail has to make it's contracts public for a month in which time the competition can waltz in and undercut us at the last minute. Royal Mail also has to charge it's customers a set price per item whilst the others can charge what they like and Royal mail still ends up doing the final mile of delivery and dropping it through the letterbox.
          "I should say I`m very much cleverer than any of the people who put me here. As a matter of fact, I could leave any time I wanted. It`s only a doll`s house after all. Anyway, I don`t mind. I like dolls" - The Mad Hatter, Arkham Asylum.

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          • mego73
            Printed paperboard Tiger
            • Aug 1, 2003
            • 6690

            #35
            Originally posted by toys2cool
            That would suck, one less day for netflix
            Just what I was thinking. If you are quick you can get 2 shipments from Netflix a week. That will be impossible with Saturday being eliminated.

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            • Hector
              el Hombre de Acero
              • May 19, 2003
              • 31852

              #36
              Originally posted by Mikey01
              Also, think about this .....

              Does this mean just the post office wont be open on Saturday ? ... or does this mean not only will the post office be closed but the mail won't move as well.

              As it is now the US mail moves 7 days a week including Saturday AND Sunday

              If this changes, you will see the US mail delivery times change drastically for the worse.

              Add 2 more days to what the current delivery estimates are now
              The mail facilities and all its hubs...they never stop...you have mailhandlers, clerks, forklift operators, truck drivers, computer technicians, mechanics, custodians, managers, supervisors, etc...working the mail during days, afternoons, and graveyard...it never stops moving.

              But cutting Saturday delivery...that probably means they will get rid of junior personnel...and that includes union members...if you have less than six years seniority...the postal service can let you go.

              As far as veterans go...the post office is currently offering early retirement to many employees...many are indeed taking it...but most don't...because the earlier you retire...the less your monthly retirement paycheck will be.
              Last edited by Hector; Mar 4, '10, 8:37 PM.
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              • Hector
                el Hombre de Acero
                • May 19, 2003
                • 31852

                #37
                Originally posted by MegoSteve
                The problem is that USPS is legally forced to serve areas that are unprofitable. They don't have the freedom other companies have in dropping routes and closing offices, because Congressman A from Podunkville will kick up a fuss if you close the post office in his district, even though there's a bigger newer one a few minutes' car ride away. They are in a unique position; they are financially independent from the government, yet the government oversees them and forces them to follow laws other companies don't have to.

                They literally go everywhere in the U.S., places FedEx and UPS won't go. I remember seeing a TV report a while ago about how they had to fly a small plane through backwoods Idaho to deliver mail to residents, and it was costing them a ridiculous amount of money... they tried cutting the flights, but Idaho congressmen and their constituents got upset so they had to reinstate it even though it was costing them $48,000 a year.

                The other problem is that they legally have to pre-fund their retirement health benefits. According to a recent editorial written by the postmaster general, that's where the bulk of their losses have occurred.

                I am not affiliated with the post office at all, but I think they get a lot of crap flung their way that they mostly don't deserve. What other company can get an actual physical letter anywhere in the United States for only 44 cents?
                Exactly.
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                • Hector
                  el Hombre de Acero
                  • May 19, 2003
                  • 31852

                  #38
                  Originally posted by johnmiic
                  Gotta dis-agree with you there Chuck. USPS is part-privately owned. It's not a total Govt. run operation. I don't know to what degree though. If perhaps they ran the USPS like Social Security - usually no senior misses a check, or the IRS which seems to have arms longer than "the law", the organization might be better run.

                  Mail-handlers do have a tough job and I think they unfairly get a bad rep. They do move millions upon millions of letters and packages on a daily basis.
                  We hear about the bad apples in the USPS more than the good ones because a reliable mail carrier story is boring but someone who snaps and gets a gun and starts shooting their co-workers is ratings gold on TV. In a poll a few years ago the USPS came out on top for most employee complaints/most employee dissatisfaction.

                  I had also heard for the past few years they were actually considering opening Sundays providing 7 days a week service, ( at least 2 banks here in NY do that now). That would be great if they could make a profit but won't help if the organization is badly run.
                  Another exactly...

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