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  • Adam West
    Museum CPA
    • Apr 14, 2003
    • 6822

    #16
    Actually, I really don't like the no catch rule if the receiver is driven out of bounds by a defender before he can get his feet down. I realize that the original rule was leading to a lot of supposition and questioning whether or not a receiver would have landed with both feet in if he hadn't been pushed out. Now that the rule has changed; I am seeing defensive backs looking like they are practicing pushing receivers out to prevent both feet from coming down when they otherwise would catch the ball.
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    • ScottA
      Original Member
      • Jun 25, 2001
      • 12264

      #17
      Bring back the 5 yard face mask rule. And I really like Rob's suggestion.
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      • wolfie
        Persistent Member
        • Dec 31, 2007
        • 1567

        #18
        Irrespective of the final score the Dolphins have still won the game.

        Oh and get rid of the extra point kick, this is a complete waste of time.

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        • Adam West
          Museum CPA
          • Apr 14, 2003
          • 6822

          #19
          Originally posted by wolfie
          Irrespective of the final score the Dolphins have still won the game.

          Oh and get rid of the extra point kick, this is a complete waste of time.
          Would you still keep the two point option in? The PAT is usually a gimme but I usually see at least one game per season that a team loses because the kicker missed the point after.
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          • toys2cool
            Ultimate Mego Warrior
            • Nov 27, 2006
            • 28605

            #20
            Originally posted by Adam West
            Would you still keep the two point option in? The PAT is usually a gimme but I usually see at least one game per season that a team loses because the kicker missed the point after.
            yeah it's a amazing how they miss those, they should at least make them 30 yards
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            • toys2cool
              Ultimate Mego Warrior
              • Nov 27, 2006
              • 28605

              #21
              also why lose your downs if kicking a FG, if you kick it on 2nd down and miss you should be able to use your other downs, I know it's weird but imagine having 3 chances to kick it
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              • Adam West
                Museum CPA
                • Apr 14, 2003
                • 6822

                #22
                Originally posted by toys2cool
                also why lose your downs if kicking a FG, if you kick it on 2nd down and miss you should be able to use your other downs, I know it's weird but imagine having 3 chances to kick it
                Actually, they do have a rule I think that you can attempt a fieldgoal on 2nd down for example but if you don't actually kick it; you can use your other downs.

                I am also wondering if anyone is familiar with the really old NFL rules (from the 1930's and 1940's). I was watching a DVD on the history of the Washington Redskins and they talked about how Sammy Baugh was a really good punter in addition to Quarterback but used to punt on 3rd down. I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would punt the ball on 3rd down except that maybe players weren't quite as athletic as they are now....meaning the field goal kickers couldn't kick them as hard or the quarterbacks couldn't throw them quite as far. Baugh was also 6'2" and 185 lbs. Holy smokes, he'd get killed in the NFL today at that weight.
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                • megoapesnut
                  The name says it all!
                  • Dec 3, 2007
                  • 3727

                  #23
                  Danny White was the last Quarterback that also punted, at least that I am aware of. However, he never punted on 3rd down, he was just the punter when it was 4th down. I agree that I can't think of a reason why you would want to punt on 3rd down.

                  And you are correct, you can attempt a field goal on any down. But you can only retry if it is not kicked (bobbled snapped, etc.). I think t2c is referring to actually kicking it multiple times and getting another chance if you missed. Which is interesting. What if you missed, would the ball be placed back at the original line of scrimmage for the 2nd attempt or would it be from where the kick was made, as they do it now?

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                  • toys2cool
                    Ultimate Mego Warrior
                    • Nov 27, 2006
                    • 28605

                    #24
                    Originally posted by megoapesnut
                    Danny White was the last Quarterback that also punted, at least that I am aware of. However, he never punted on 3rd down, he was just the punter when it was 4th down. I agree that I can't think of a reason why you would want to punt on 3rd down.

                    And you are correct, you can attempt a field goal on any down. But you can only retry if it is not kicked (bobbled snapped, etc.). I think t2c is referring to actually kicking it multiple times and getting another chance if you missed. Which is interesting. What if you missed, would the ball be placed back at the original line of scrimmage for the 2nd attempt or would it be from where the kick was made, as they do it now?
                    yeah i meant if you missed you could try again could ? about where to place the ball though
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                    • wolfie
                      Persistent Member
                      • Dec 31, 2007
                      • 1567

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Adam West

                      Would you still keep the two point option in?

                      .

                      Yes i think this is a good one. The extra point is virtually never missed and so is a waste of time. The two point try is much better.

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                      • thunderbolt
                        Hi Ernie!!!
                        • Feb 15, 2004
                        • 34211

                        #26
                        I'd like to see the market blackouts and the lack of the second game being shown after a home game gone. I really don't see how not showing the game due to poor ticket sales or not showing the late or early game affects anything. most of us poor slobs can't afford to go to a game anyway.
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                        • theantiquetiger
                          Fra-gee-lay Thats Italian
                          • Nov 12, 2005
                          • 3435

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Adam West
                          I am also wondering if anyone is familiar with the really old NFL rules (from the 1930's and 1940's). I was watching a DVD on the history of the Washington Redskins and they talked about how Sammy Baugh was a really good punter in addition to Quarterback but used to punt on 3rd down. I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would punt the ball on 3rd down except that maybe players weren't quite as athletic as they are now....meaning the field goal kickers couldn't kick them as hard or the quarterbacks couldn't throw them quite as far. Baugh was also 6'2" and 185 lbs. Holy smokes, he'd get killed in the NFL today at that weight.
                          LSU was famous for punting on 3rd down during their NC year in 58. Because of the new substitution rules that year, the coach divided the team into three sub team, the Gold Team, White Team, and The Chinese Bandits. Instead of substituting one or two players, he would substitute the entire team. (back than, a player could only substitute once per half, and only the starting team could come back on the field again once during the half). The Chinese Bandits were not much of an offensive team but great defensive team. So if they got the ball deep in their own territory, they would run a couple plays, and if no 1st down, they would punt on 3rd down and put the other team deep and use their defense to control the game.
                          This three team concept is the main reason LSU won that year. By the start of the 4th quarter, the other team's starters would be worn out from playing against a constant fresh team, and LSU would bring back in the main team (White Team), and win the game.

                          Ole Miss beat LSU the next year during the Sugar Bowl (1960 Sugar Bowl), using this same strategy, punting on 3rd down, full team substitutions, etc.
                          Last edited by theantiquetiger; Jan 11, '10, 5:58 PM.
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                          • toys2cool
                            Ultimate Mego Warrior
                            • Nov 27, 2006
                            • 28605

                            #28
                            Originally posted by thunderbolt
                            I'd like to see the market blackouts and the lack of the second game being shown after a home game gone. I really don't see how not showing the game due to poor ticket sales or not showing the late or early game affects anything. most of us poor slobs can't afford to go to a game anyway.
                            yeah i hate that crap
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                            • thunderbolt
                              Hi Ernie!!!
                              • Feb 15, 2004
                              • 34211

                              #29
                              We get a half hour of Chip Carter droning on about the Bucs after they get their ***'s kicked yet again. The only good part is watching Raheem Morris's press conferences after and his latest excuse.
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                              • theantiquetiger
                                Fra-gee-lay Thats Italian
                                • Nov 12, 2005
                                • 3435

                                #30
                                I cannot stand the NFL. I would like to see it run like European Soccer. Every city has a team, and the Super Bowl played every four years. If not every city, atleast every state.

                                I could really care less if the Saints make it to the Super Bowl, because that is a New Orleans team, not Baton Rouge.
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