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  • 60'schild
    Silver Haired Silver Ager
    • Mar 27, 2009
    • 0

    Producer says HE created LOST in 1977

    A bit too many coincidences for comfort??

    http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/6513

    It seems that time travel is not just a science-fiction element in "Lost." It could be a part of its history.

    At least that's what former "Baretta" and "Babes in Toyland" producer Anthony Spinner claims in a lawsuit he has filed against ABC and Touchstone Television, claiming both companies ripped off a pilot he wrote in 1977 that has a huge resemblance to "Lost."

    Why Spinner waited nearly five years after the show's premiere and success was not revealed by TMZ, which first reported the lawsuit Monday. However, Spinner apparently did try to sue in August 2005, but that suit was dismissed for "procedural reasons."

    Spinner claims he was paid $30,000 more than 32 years ago to write a 121-page pilot script that he called "Lost."

    ABC reportedly passed on the show in 1977, but Spinner said he tried to sell it again in 1991 and 1994, both meeting with rejection. Later, however, Touchstone and ABC commissioned a pilot 10 years after his last attempt, which he said looked an awful lot like what he had written in 1977.

    A copy of Spinner's original script was not made available, but a list of what he perceived as similarities was included. The main similarity was the fact that an airplane headed to Los Angeles crashed into a "tropical, jungle-like environment." A doctor on the plane, who he called Braeman, becomes the "humanitarian voice" for the survivors, and "eventually dies from injuries sustained in the crash," but before his death, shares "harmful information regarding another passenger."

    In Spinner's version, the dying survivor was the plane's pilot, and he had some pad information about a character named Hagan, while in the ABC version of the series, Jack tries to save a U.S. Marshal, who ends up dying after sharing "harmful information" about Kate.

    There also are some more common traits, like characters with father-son problem histories challenging the leadership, a survivor with a drug addiction, and women being able to perform the same tasks as men. Another interesting comparison is the fact that there is a female survivor who likes to show her body and becomes romantically involved with one of the tough men. Spinner said he had a beautiful character named Jackie that was attracted to a guy named Butch, while in "Lost," Shannon likes to show her body, and becomes involved with Sayid.

    Spinner claims there were some specific storytelling aspects taken from him, however. He had a group of people who lived on the island before the plane survivors known as the "primitives," who he claimed "Lost" morphed into The Others. He also had placed a cold weather animal on the island, a saber tooth tiger, which was similar to the polar bear found on the "Lost" island.

    However, the most interesting aspect Spinner claims he used was having flashbacks showcase survivors' lives before the crash as a form of character development, something that "Lost" has become almost iconic for.

    ABC has not issued a statement on the lawsuit, but Spinner is wanting royalties and profit among other demands.

    Spinner, 78, started his career as a writer for "Studio One" in the early 1950s, but has has been largely inactive in the entertainment industry since 1996, according to the Internet Movie Database.
  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    #2
    Everyone knows Sherwood Schwartz created the high concept for "Lost" in 1964.

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    • ctc
      Fear the monkeybat!
      • Aug 16, 2001
      • 11183

      #3
      Hmmmm....

      I could see parrallel development. The characters from "Lost" were pretty standard. Same with the idea of someone living there before. (Which I believe WAS a Gilligan episode....) The Saber tooth/polar bear is a little iffy. (Was there a Gilligan episode about that?)

      Don C.

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      • jasonmego1277
        Persistent Member
        • Dec 9, 2008
        • 1741

        #4
        Originally posted by samurainoir
        Everyone knows Sherwood Schwartz created the high concept for "Lost" in 1964.

        http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/ima...ans-island.jpg
        Agreed, Now why are there no Gilligan mego's.
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        • Gorn Captain
          Invincible Ironing Man
          • Feb 28, 2008
          • 10549

          #5
          I wrote Heroes 20 years back.
          Including the ending with the main character being "not in control of his abilities" and going nuclear at the end.

          I didn't copyright it. Shoot me....

          But I guess someone somewhere already wrote something similar 40 years or so back....
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          • samurainoir
            Eloquent Member
            • Dec 26, 2006
            • 18758

            #6
            The Flashback technique was used in the Gilligan's Island episode where they all remember the encounter with the Japanese Sailor differently.

            Here is the episode dealing with "The Others"...

            "High Man on the Totem Pole" 1625-05xx 27 February 1967 Kupakai Headhunters
            (Jim Lefebvre, Al Ferrara, Pete Sotos)
            Skipper and Gilligan find a totem pole in the jungle, and the head at the top of the pole is a dead ringer for Gilligan, leading him to believe he is a Kupakai headhunter. Trouble begins when real Kupakai warriors show up and discover that someone has defaced their sacred pole.
            No polar bear, but I do remember the episode with the Gorilla.
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            • ctc
              Fear the monkeybat!
              • Aug 16, 2001
              • 11183

              #7
              >I wrote Heroes 20 years back.

              ....but I think Chris Claremont beat you by about 8 years....

              Don C.

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              • Gorn Captain
                Invincible Ironing Man
                • Feb 28, 2008
                • 10549

                #8
                Originally posted by ctc
                >I wrote Heroes 20 years back.

                ....but I think Chris Claremont beat you by about 8 years....

                Don C.

                And history repeats itself, indeed.
                We are always inspired by our predecessors...
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                • 60'schild
                  Silver Haired Silver Ager
                  • Mar 27, 2009
                  • 0

                  #9
                  And just like with Gilligan's Island, years from now, everyone around the world will know the words from the LOST theme song.

                  Wait a minute ....

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                  • Captain
                    Fighting the good fight!
                    • Jun 17, 2001
                    • 6031

                    #10
                    Reminds me of a guy in Calgary way back that sued George Lucas for stealing his movie idea "Space Pets",and used it as the basis for Return of The Jedi. Lucas had to even come to town to testify. Of course the guy was a swindler (even wore the outlandish purple Vegas style suits and gold sunglasses, greasy slick baked hair..the whole nine yards) and he was quickly defeated. It was generally assumed in the media that the guy thought Lucas would pay him off just to shut him up...he was wrong!
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                    • 60'schild
                      Silver Haired Silver Ager
                      • Mar 27, 2009
                      • 0

                      #11
                      Still, some of the "similarities" (at least as described in the article) are a bit more specific that you'd think with a simple premise...

                      And if the guy was a producer, it's quite possible that his "version" was pitched around at one time (and either copied or remembered by folks at studios).

                      Who knows... the only sure thing is that there is big money at stake ...

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                      • megocrazy
                        Museum Trouble Maker
                        • Feb 18, 2007
                        • 3718

                        #12
                        I sent a short story about something similar to ABC in 1976. I was a very imaginitive 10 year old. I'm gonna call my lawyer. I also invented the internet and Al Gore stole it from me. Don't even get me going on personal computers. Made my first one from a calculator and an AM radio as a gift for my friend Bill Gates. I got so ripped off.....I'm suing everyone.
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                        • megocrazy
                          Museum Trouble Maker
                          • Feb 18, 2007
                          • 3718

                          #13
                          duplicate post. DOH!!!
                          Last edited by megocrazy; Jul 14, '09, 3:24 PM.
                          It's not a doll it's an action figure.

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                          • bobws
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 13, 2008
                            • 3479

                            #14
                            There was also a crash survivors show around 1970. it came on right before the david steinberg show.
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                            • DocDrako
                              Formerly Doc Drako
                              • Nov 11, 2004
                              • 2813

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jasonmego1277
                              Agreed, Now why are there no Gilligan mego's.
                              Gilligan's Island Megos would be cool! I'd buy them all! They could even have made some of the people that showed up on the island. Headhunters, etc. Now I want Gilligan's Island Megos (or EMCEs, Cast-A-Ways, etc).

                              Good idea, jasonmego1277!
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