Is it worth seeing a band without their lead singer ?

[kryptosmaster]

I've heard of some groups that use the name but don't even have one original member left in them at all. That's almost bordering on fraud depending on the circumstances. Of course most of these are groups from the 50's & 60's where I'm sure the originals are either dying off or too old to perform and perhaps some of them have passed the torch to a new generation of members. I can't think of any 100% certain examples but I believe a couple of them that I heard had no originals left are the Drifters & the Platters.
Rich

[Mikey]

Maybe the Temptations

Aint they all dead --- but somehow they still tour ?

[Cosmicman]

Maybe the Temptations

Aint they all dead --- but somehow they still tour ?

Dude. Bill Haley and the Comets still "tour" or play rock n roll events here and there and Bill Haley has been dead for decades.
There is a difference between "touring" and "playing out" and "selling records."

[jds1911a1]

I was wondering that myself...Creedance Clear water revisited? yeah i think without Foggery it's not worth it

damn right - especially since Jon finally won the suit to be able to perform the stuff he wrote for CCR why see the back up band memebers.

Some bands can make it work (Chicago could) but most of the time the singer makes the sound (think how few bands survive a singer change while they are on top when - ACDC and VH are the only ones that come to mind)

in the 90's Judas Priest tried to push out Rob Halford (foe being open about his sexual orientation - big surprise based on the outfits) and got the cover band singer to replace him sure it sounded like Judas priest but without halford it might as well have been a BRITISH STEEL concert.

Conversely sometimes the band dynamic is co dependant on the singer and the bandmates - to me Guns and Roses of today with Axel but no slash isn't GNR. I give alot of credit to Led Zep when bohnam died they knew it was over and it was what 25 years before plant and page even apeared on the same stage and another 15 before they toured as zep.

[Cosmicman]

Don't forget Pink Floyd.

Who the heck is this new guy Dave Gilmour ?

That is referred to as the "second wind renewed" scenario.

When nobody really cares or has no idea who the band was when their original singer was with them and a new guy steps in and the band becomes the most successful in their career.
Another example of the "second wind renewed" scenario would be Genesis.
Not a lot of people really knew the Peter Gabriel front man era. He exits, Phil Collins steps up and they become larger then life.
Of course Anthrax is another band that everything thinks Joey Belladonna was their original lead singer and it was some guy nobody heard of.

[SUP-Ronin]

It depends on the band I suppose.
U2? No way.
The Dead? Absolutely, no problem.

[toys2cool]

The lead singer is everything

[Hector]

I was going to say something about the price. If the tickets are reasonable and the music is good then I would go.

Nobody will ever replace Freddie Mercury but I would go see Queen if they had a decent singer and the ticket prices were not ridiculously high.

Brian May and Roger Taylor are interested in Adam Lambert...and I'm all for that. Lambert fits Queen a lot better than Paul Rodgers.

[EMCE Hammer]

That is referred to as the "second wind renewed" scenario.

When nobody really cares or has no idea who the band was when their original singer was with them and a new guy steps in and the band becomes the most successful in their career.
Another example of the "second wind renewed" scenario would be Genesis.
Not a lot of people really knew the Peter Gabriel front man era. He exits, Phil Collins steps up and they become larger then life.
Of course Anthrax is another band that everything thinks Joey Belladonna was their original lead singer and it was some guy nobody heard of.

Don't forget that Bruce Dickinson guy.

[Adam West]

I heard about the Adam Lambert scenario.

I am not a big Idol fan but he has some serious talent and have no idea why he was never discovered before Idol.

I'd have to hear him sing Bohemian Rhapsody before I gave him the thumbs up.

[Hector]

I heard about the Adam Lambert scenario.

I am not a big Idol fan but he has some serious talent and have no idea why he was never discovered before Idol.

I'd have to hear him sing Bohemian Rhapsody before I gave him the thumbs up.

Lambert's first audition...a little bit of Bohemian Rhapsody...

YouTube - Adam Lambert Bohemian Rhapsody Audition [HD]


...and of course with Queen in the final episode (notice Lambert getting bigger cheers than Kris Allen, and how he overpowers him, lol)...

YouTube - American Idol 8 - Adam Lambert with Queen

YouTube - Is Queen in Adam Lambert's Future?

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

I really do think it depends on the band. Two of my faves changed leads and are still great:

-Nightwish replaced their lead, and the new one sounds very different from the original; but is just as talented.
-The Creepshow replaced their lead with her sister, who sounds just like the original singing in a slightly different style.

>in the 90's Judas Priest tried to push out Rob Halford (foe being open about his sexual orientation - big surprise based on the outfits) and got the cover band singer to replace him sure it sounded like Judas priest but without halford it might as well have been a BRITISH STEEL concert.

Yeah, Owens was similar sounding; but I think where the REAL loss came was from Halford's input into they lyrics. Most of "Jugulator" was pretty standard stuff. (Although I do kinda like "Demolition.")

Don C.

[Meule]

I saw the Doors of the 21st Century and it's definitely worth going

[Cosmicman]

Hmmmm....


>in the 90's Judas Priest tried to push out Rob Halford (foe being open about his sexual orientation - big surprise based on the outfits) and got the cover band singer to replace him sure it sounded like Judas priest but without halford it might as well have been a BRITISH STEEL concert.

That was actually a rumor. The band Judas Priest knew about Rob Halford's homosexuality for many years. What really happened was Rob quit the band after a disagreement about royalties and some minor tension from a motor cycle accident. After he left, the rumor about him being fired for being gay was printed all over. Rob Halford and Judas Priest came forth and denied the rumor.

But....the rumor and the made up story inspired a movie called "Rock star" where the band (that was similar to Judas Priest) fires their lead singer because he is gay. He is replaced by a sound alike (sorta like the Tim "ripper" Owens story).
Unfortunately because of that movie, a lot of people said it was based on the Rob Halford/Judas Priest scenario that was not true. Originally, Rock star was supposed to be about Judas Priest and when they found out that homoseuxal/firing story wasn't true they decided to make it into a story with fictional characters.


Rob Halford is currently back with Judas Priest and sounding better then ever btw. Tim "Ripper" Owens was a good replacement but only Rob Halford is the only man I'd want to see fronting Judas Preist.

Tim "Ripper" Owens is now fronting the Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force band and their new album Perpetual Flame is the best thing I have heard from the Rising Force since the Joe Lynn Turner Odyssey days.

[Cosmicman]

I saw the Doors of the 21st Century and it's definitely worth going

You are right but after a lawsuit from the original Door's drummer John Densmore, the band had changed their name to "Riders On The Storm"

Ian Ashbury later left the band and returned to the Cult and the lead singing duties are curently being filled by Brett Scallions formerly of the band Fuel.

On August, 2008, the California Supreme Court decided not to hear the case involving Krieger and Manzarek's use of the name "The Doors" in performances over the objections of Densmore and the Morrison estate, so the judgment against Krieger and Manzarek stands

In February 2009 Ray and Robby went back on tour using the name "Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger of The Doors."