Just saw Quantum of Solace

[phil]

I've seen it twice and enjoyed it both times. I don't think it was as good as
"Casino Royale" but it is very much like a Fleming novel. That's a definate
plus. Compared to the plots of most of the films "Quantum of Solace" is very
realistic.

I'm a huge fan of the films and I like the new direction they have taken. I stongly suspect the next film will open with the gun barrel sequence.

Daniel Craig, like Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton before him, all make Bonds
that you can actually believe could kill someone. That is why the character
has a license to kill.

[EMCE Hammer]

Speaking of Dalton - why didn't he last?

[Hector]

Roger Moore sucks.

[kingdom warrior]

Speaking of Dalton - why didn't he last?

Dalton's first outing as 007, The Living Daylights was critically successful, and grossed more than the previous two Bond films with Roger Moore, his second film, Licence to Kill , although almost as successful as its predecessor in most markets, did not perform as well at the U.S. box office, in large part due to a lacklustre marketing campaign, after the title of the film was abruptly changed from 'License Revoked'.



Since Dalton was contracted for three Bond movies, the pre-production of his third film began in 1990, in order to be released in 1991. It was rumored that he would make The Property of a Lady (which is one of Ian Fleming's short stories and elements of which had been included in Octopussy), but this was never confirmed. What was confirmed is that the story would deal with the destruction of a chemical weapons laboratory in Scotland, and the events would take place in London, Tokyo and Hong Kong. However, the film was cancelled due to legal issues between UA/MGM and EON, which lasted for four years.



The legal battle ended in 1993, and Dalton was expected to return as James Bond in the next Bond movie, which later became GoldenEye. Despite his contract having expired, negotiations with him to renew it took place. In an interview with the Daily Mail in August 1993, Dalton indicated that Michael France was writing the screenplay for the new movie, and the production was to begin in January or February 1994. When the deadline was not met, Dalton surprised everyone with the announcement that he would not return as James Bond. At this time he was shooting the mini-series Scarlett. The announcement for the new Bond came two months later, with Pierce Brosnan playing the role.



Dalton's assertion that Michael France was writing the new film proved correct. Working closely with the Broccoli and Wilson, France had created a first draft screenplay named after Ian Fleming's house in Jamaica, GoldenEye. The first draft had been written with Dalton in mind. However when Brosnan came on board, the screenplay was rewritten by British writer Jeffrey Caine, who retained much of France's original ideas involving Bond's relationship with the traitorous 006, Alec Trevelyan. Caine added new angles to the piece, including the addition of the prologue which opens the finished film. A third writer, Kevin Wade, was brought in to polish the script, and a final tinkering was done by Bruce Feirstein, a friend of Barbara Broccoli, and her husband, Fred Zollo. Dalton reflects in 2007 on the retrospective possibility of appearing as James Bond for a third time: "I was supposed to make one more but it was cancelled because MGM and the film's producers got into a lawsuit which lasted for five years. After that, I didn’t want to do it anymore.

[kingdom warrior]

Daniel Craig, like Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton before him, all make Bonds that you can actually believe could kill someone. That is why the character has a license to kill.

True I thought Dalton's Bond was really Good very different and tough. Bronson was a GQ Bond he was meant to look good for the ladies and advertise products for the movies......Roger Moore was a lighthearted...aww hell he sucked!!!

[starsky]

grew up with roger moore, thought he was pretty good.

[Hector]

grew up with roger moore, thought he was pretty awful.

[Hector]

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Dalton
5. Lazenby
6. Niven
7. Moore

Here are some cool stats about the different actors playing Bond (Niven is not included)...

BondMovies.com: The Bonds

[huedell]

I'm not gonna whine about it---but I'll put in my kudos for Moore.

I know it's a silly era...but I guess that's how I prefer my Bond.

More "Austin Powers" than "Ian Fleming".

Otherwise it's quite a serious tone---and not really my thing.

I was taken to see QOS recently, and I thought it was okay.

I liked the constant hammering of "Is this right?"/"Is this wrong?"
i mean, if the movie is going to be THAT serious, they might as well
be up front about how ludicrously Bond acts when it comes to
dealing out justice....many times ending in murder.

[aquatroy]

grew up with roger moore, thought he was pretty awful.

I have to agree.

I really like Casino Royal and I'm looking forward to watching QoS just as soon as it come to On Demand.

[EMCE Hammer]

Dalton's first outing as 007, The Living Daylights was critically successful, and grossed more than the previous two Bond films with Roger Moore, his second film, Licence to Kill , although almost as successful as its predecessor in most markets, did not perform as well at the U.S. box office, in large part due to a lacklustre marketing campaign, after the title of the film was abruptly changed from 'License Revoked'.



Since Dalton was contracted for three Bond movies, the pre-production of his third film began in 1990, in order to be released in 1991. It was rumored that he would make The Property of a Lady (which is one of Ian Fleming's short stories and elements of which had been included in Octopussy), but this was never confirmed. What was confirmed is that the story would deal with the destruction of a chemical weapons laboratory in Scotland, and the events would take place in London, Tokyo and Hong Kong. However, the film was cancelled due to legal issues between UA/MGM and EON, which lasted for four years.



The legal battle ended in 1993, and Dalton was expected to return as James Bond in the next Bond movie, which later became GoldenEye. Despite his contract having expired, negotiations with him to renew it took place. In an interview with the Daily Mail in August 1993, Dalton indicated that Michael France was writing the screenplay for the new movie, and the production was to begin in January or February 1994. When the deadline was not met, Dalton surprised everyone with the announcement that he would not return as James Bond. At this time he was shooting the mini-series Scarlett. The announcement for the new Bond came two months later, with Pierce Brosnan playing the role.



Dalton's assertion that Michael France was writing the new film proved correct. Working closely with the Broccoli and Wilson, France had created a first draft screenplay named after Ian Fleming's house in Jamaica, GoldenEye. The first draft had been written with Dalton in mind. However when Brosnan came on board, the screenplay was rewritten by British writer Jeffrey Caine, who retained much of France's original ideas involving Bond's relationship with the traitorous 006, Alec Trevelyan. Caine added new angles to the piece, including the addition of the prologue which opens the finished film. A third writer, Kevin Wade, was brought in to polish the script, and a final tinkering was done by Bruce Feirstein, a friend of Barbara Broccoli, and her husband, Fred Zollo. Dalton reflects in 2007 on the retrospective possibility of appearing as James Bond for a third time: "I was supposed to make one more but it was cancelled because MGM and the film's producers got into a lawsuit which lasted for five years. After that, I didn’t want to do it anymore.

Thanks for the info!

[kingdom warrior]

Just to add a little Foot note about Timothy Dalton

Dalton had been approached with the Bond role years before. In 1968, Albert Broccoli asked Dalton if he would be interested in taking over the role of James Bond after Sean Connery, but Dalton later said, "I considered myself too young and Connery too good." Dalton wanted a bit of variety so he alternated between film, television and stage productions. He was offered the role again in the 1970's but turned it down because of film commitments.

I think i t would have been pretty interesting had Dalton taken over Bond in 68. I think the series would have been totally different.

Dalton's Bond was a lot like the Fleming's Bond. Just the movie goers of the time I think were not ready for a grittier Bond although Worldwide both of his movies did very well.

[Goblin19]

1. Connery (No explanation necessary: The perfect combo of physicality and humor).
2. Brosnan (love him as Bond, but not his movies)
3. Craig (will probably end up second with future movies, but I want to see his charisma and charm more)
4. Moore (I don't like all of his movies, but he was quite charming, at his best, though he wasn't physical enough)
5. Dalton (The reverse of Moore, quite tough, but not charming)
6. Lazenby (Pretty good, great physically. I always wished he was given another chance. I think he could have grown into the part like Moore did.)

[kingdom warrior]

6. Lazenby (Pretty good, great physically. I always wished he was given another chance. I think he could have grown into the part like Moore did.)

Yup! OHMSS is actually one of the best Bond movies.

[Goblin19]

It's my second favorite to Goldfinger. It still has the best action scenes of any.