flash Season 3

[Earth 2 Chris]

I'm glad they listened to the fans and gave him the much better "future" suit... or maybe that was the plan all along? Either way, a great improvement.

Chris

[thunderbolt]

still shaking my head over the fact that a lower budget TV show can get the Flash more right than a bloated movie production.

[Operation:Mego]

[MegoSteve]

I just finished the season on Netflix and thought it was too heavy. I generally enjoy the show as dumb fun, but there are so many ridiculous elements to it (like their giant headquarters in the middle of the city where all of six people work... who cleans that huge building?) and the seasons have all been repetitive... every single one has been Flash in a season-long battle with a faster villain who is shockingly unmasked as a close ally.

I did laugh, though, because I kept thinking an MST3K-style joke whenever Future Barry/Savitar was out of his suit:

Grant Gustin IS Keanu Reeve AS the Flash

[Dark Shadow]

This quote from Grant Gustin makes me optimistic about the upcoming season:

That was always the goal for our show was we were going to be the lighter, funnier show. And you know, sometimes storylines just take you where they take you. I think just because of all the time travel that Barry Allen did, and all the repercussions it had, it took us down the “Flashpoint” road, if you will. We really didn’t do “Flashpoint” for long, but we dealt with the repercussions for an entire season. Barry wasn’t only the big bad at the end of the year, but he was kind of the villain of the season because it was his fault that everything happened. So we’re going to get back to our roots a little bit, and because of this experience in the Speed Force, Barry’s able to let go of things and move on, and he’s able to help the team move on, and the show can get back to its original roots where Barry enjoys having these powers and has fun, and the whole team has a little bit more fun.

If that's the case, I'd be willing to give the series another shot.

[johnnystorm]

My nose is twitching already!!!


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[sprytel]

This quote from Grant Gustin makes me optimistic about the upcoming season:

That was always the goal for our show was we were going to be the lighter, funnier show. And you know, sometimes storylines just take you where they take you. I think just because of all the time travel that Barry Allen did, and all the repercussions it had, it took us down the “Flashpoint” road, if you will. We really didn’t do “Flashpoint” for long, but we dealt with the repercussions for an entire season. Barry wasn’t only the big bad at the end of the year, but he was kind of the villain of the season because it was his fault that everything happened. So we’re going to get back to our roots a little bit, and because of this experience in the Speed Force, Barry’s able to let go of things and move on, and he’s able to help the team move on, and the show can get back to its original roots where Barry enjoys having these powers and has fun, and the whole team has a little bit more fun.

[Nostalgiabuff]

honestly, all of the superheroes shows are getting tired at this point. enough with season long story arcs

[Earth 2 Chris]

^That's a great idea! Which means they probably won't do it, but I love it. Perfect time to do it too. The only down side is we saw TWO surly/evil Barrys this season already.

Chris

[kept back]

I'm fully expecting next season to be an adaptation of "The Return of Barry Allen" arc from Marc Waid's run. They can't let Barry out of the speed force immediately, but they can't go without Grant on the show for an entire season. Thawne coming as Barry and conflicting with Wally and Jay is their best bet. Plus, they've been a little too adamant that next season's big bad won't be a speedster.

[johnnystorm]

Yeah, they may be setting up a partial season with Wally taking over as Flash, maybe mentored by Jay. The Bart Allen mention a few episodes ago could indicate Impulse is coming too.

[enyawd72]

One of the things I miss most about this show vs. the 90's series is Barry being a forensic scientist and actually using his brain once in a while. I loved that about the 90's version. Bring back the Trickster and make Barry have to THINK to outwit his foe, not just run circles around him. Oh, and please get rid of team Flash and the three other speedsters. It's the FLASH, not Flash and Friends.

And for crying out loud, WHY does Barry even have a secret identity when like 30 freaking people including all his enemies know who he really is?

[Earth 2 Chris]

Despite the dumbness of some of the things you guys mentioned, which we all called by watching, I felt the end of Savitar was fairly satisfying. Not great, but decent. But then it was way too early, and I knew we had to have a cliffhanger.

The sentient Speed Force is taking Mark Waid's concept too far. It was much better when it was just a "force", not a collective of prison guards, speed cops, etc. And Barry just instantly being okay with having to spend the rest of eternity there was a bit much. Why didn't Jay offer to go back? That line should have been in there.

I think if they had built the "Speed Force needs a prisoner" angle into Savitars defeat, and had Barry RUN INTO THE SPEED FORCE, that would have made for a much better, dramatic ending. He could have even run out of his costume, leaving Wally to hold it ala Crisis, vowing to take over as The Flash. We would have ended with the same situation for next season, but a much stronger finale.

Chris

[palitoy]

I thought it was a good finale but i agree on a lot of the quibbles you guys have (HR could have been saved, Speedforce is lame, Barry's long goodbye) and i'm sort of glad this season is over. I hope the new show runners can put the some new energy into the show, make it fun again. This season was too heavy, like "Arrow heavy" and well, it shouldn't be this dark, it's the Flash.

[johnnystorm]

Oh, exactly on point with HR dying...I said to my wife that Barry could have had him in 50 different ERs around the world in the time it took him to deliver his speech! Ditto the ending, while Barry hugs it out (with eveyone but Jay?), meanwhile the city is being destroyed. They ACTUALLY look at cars being wrecked and not one of them moves to help! Then Barry calmly continues his farewell address, while his Mommy awaits. Seriously dude, therapy would've been great. Didn't Super-Dad Joe ever take that kid for counseling? Really would have been great for him. Could have avoided all this "brother-sister-girlfriend" ickiness too.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the TOTAL RIDICULOUSNESS of Caitlin destroying the Black Flash in ,like 2 seconds! Too bad Thawne didn't realize that when he was teamed with Captain Cold, it would have saved everyone a lot of trouble since BLACK FLASH WAS THE WHOLE REASON FOR THAWNE'S PLAN ON LEGENDS OF TOMORROW!! And why weren't the Speed Force Guards after Savitar sll season anyway? He was a time remnant. No, they ignored him...yet prior to this they were out chasing every time abberation there was.
The writers on this show are just getting terrible. It's like they want to get it cancelled before the big screen movie comes around.
And Julian sucks. Terrible actor, terrible character.