flash Season 3

[Earth 2 Chris]

Last night's episode was fun, but man, I am so tired of the All-Angst Squadron this season. Plus, Barry comes across as the worst Super Hero ever. Fix this timeline mess and let's move on. Or leave it the way it is and just forget it. Flashpoint begat a DC Universe that the company is desperately trying to course-correct from, so I'm not sure why the TV guys are so insistent on repeating those same mistakes here.

They've transferred the "can't win for losing" vibe from Arrow over to this show, and it doesn't fit. Flash is supposed to be a lighter more upbeat program, but when Barry's friends all hate him and he makes more mistakes than an awkward teenager, it's hard to get behind. I hope coming out of this crossover Barry is restored to hero status in full.

Chris

[megowgsh]

^^^DITTO

[MIB41]

It's becoming work to watch this season. We use to watch this religiously every week, now we fall behind sometimes more than two episodes at a time. The constant character tweaks have made it hard to investment in anyone except Barry and he's getting more than a tad too selfish in the emotional toy store. I agree Chris. Stay on one reality plane and let's get on the down the road. The Ground Hog's Day story treatment is SO DONE.

[palitoy]

Dammit, I wanted to know how Joe's love life is going, not watch superheroes fight!

[palitoy]

Next week looks fun

[Earth 2 Chris]

Yes it does. At this point I'd take a Jay-only episode and give Barry the week off.

Chris

[enyawd72]

I'm still all-in on the Flash...there's bound to be good and bad episodes of any show, and the good far outweighs the bad.

[LonnieFisher]

Can't we have a hero without a team? The backup team members are in every show, with the same line-up. Let's see a hero that doesn't have an "in" located at the police station, and a computer genius/hacker who can hack into anything within half a second.

[MIB41]

It was fun seeing the future Hall of Justice makes it's debut.

[johnnystorm]

Great Jay appearance tonight. ..and Earth3 Trickster totally made the episode! If only we could have had a full ep set on Earth 3 with only the two Flashes & no "team" baloney.

[enyawd72]

Great episode tonight! I never get tired of seeing Jay and Barry together...also pretty happy they seemed to have resolved the Julian/Alchemy story rather quickly.

Nice Christmas stuff at the end too!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Best episode of the season, although my entire family was screaming "NOOOO, DON'T DO IT!!!" at the screen when Barry unmasked.

Loved, loved LOVED seeing Shipp as Jay. He should be on more, and I'd totally be up for a solo episode when Gustin needs a break.

Chris

[enyawd72]

^With all the awesome figures and statues that have come out from the show, I am praying we get some Shipp as Jay merchandise. And how about some 90's Flash stuff while we're at it...

[MIB41]

I guess it was time to revive this thread since interest has waned. I fell behind five episodes on my DVR and finally, over the course of a week, got caught up. At times it was painful to even stay awake because the characters are becoming SO dumbed down in terms of what they reason and naively believe, it just feels like the show has lost all of it's plot and character strengths. I honestly thought I would like KidFlash, but I think his outfit reads goofy on him and his personality is too juvenile even with context to the character. The Grodd story-line was ambitious and I give them props for tackling that, but the back and forth between that and KidFlash finding his celebrity as a hero really diluted what should have been a classic story. I checked ratings and the show is definitely in trouble. It's down nearly 20% in viewership from last season with the last episode being the least watched for the whole season. I think the Reverse Flash is long overdue for an appearance again, assuming the season (and series) can be saved at this point.

[enyawd72]

One of the problems with the Flash IMO, not only on TV but in the comics as well is DC has WAAAY too many speedsters. I mean for crying out loud...Garrick Flash, Allen Flash, West Flash, Max Mercury, Jesse Quick, Reverse Flash, Zoom, Savatar...it takes away from his uniqueness. Marvel has TWO. Quicksilver and Speed Demon. That's all you need...one good, one bad.

I also never really liked the "speed force" stuff either. It just comes off as an incredible lazy way to "explain" the Flash's power, which as it turns out isn't even his power, since so many other people can and do tap into it...just my two cents. As much as I love the Flash, Marvel's movie version of Quicksilver in DOFP was a lot cooler.