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  • cjefferys
    Duke of Gloat
    • Apr 23, 2006
    • 10180

    #16
    Originally posted by Brazoo
    My new goal in life is to hang with you at a show and witness "Mississauga George Lucas" get up in your face for trying to steal his turf.
    "Mississauga George Lucas" is a punk, and you would be witness to an epic slap fight sir. But on a serious note, hope you can make it to the show Aaron.

    Originally posted by Brazoo
    if young women want to walk around in vinyl underwear and pasties.
    Welp, it looks like I can't miss Fan Expo this year!

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    • kingdom warrior
      OH JES!!
      • Jul 21, 2005
      • 12478

      #17
      In this selfie absorbed world, It's easy to see how this has gotten big. It's an easy equation for success if you have the combined skills of; a creative imagination, sewing, making props, blessed with good looks a body and have access to photographers. In no time you will have thousands of followers on any social media. Many teens and young adults especially aspiring models want success anyway they can get it. Cosplaying is almost guaranteed for success especially if you're a gorgeous young woman who has no fear of the camera. Nerds, pervs, geezers all flock to them easy target to make money off of.

      In Japan cosplaying is amazing they put the American cosplayers to shame, and have Cons dedicated just for them. Do I think they belong seated with creators? No, but then again I'm from a different generation. Without the creator there is no character to cosplay. But I also know today's non comic reader has no clue or cares who the creator is. They know the characters from their fav comic book or anime movie and that's all they care about. People elevate to stardom whomever inspires them.

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      • cockyhoskins
        Career Member
        • Jan 13, 2009
        • 933

        #18
        Originally posted by palitoy
        the point of this thread was not to make hay with cos-players, I don't have issue with them by and large. Just the notion that they get celebrity treatment is strange to me.
        That was my point too. All of us here are adults hanging out and conversing on a website about toys. I won't knock anyone who wants to dress up as their favorite characters. More power to them!

        It's just weird to me that they are now getting booths and charging for autographs. Why in the world would someone pay to get the autograph of some random person dressed up in a costume?

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        • kingdom warrior
          OH JES!!
          • Jul 21, 2005
          • 12478

          #19
          Originally posted by cockyhoskins
          It's just weird to me that they are now getting booths and charging for autographs. Why in the world would someone pay to get the autograph of some random person dressed up in a costume?

          It's no different when you see playboy models signing pics of the issues they were in or selling pics of themselves at cons. Think about it it's the same thing. Someone bought that issue put that model up on a alter and gets a chance to meet, take a pic and get her autograph. Most cosplayers meet young fans who follow them on social media or people who like their pics or other aspiring costume designers, and so they feel connected. Social media has totally changed who society sees as a celebrity.

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          • Brazoo
            Permanent Member
            • Feb 14, 2009
            • 4767

            #20
            Originally posted by palitoy
            Funny you should mention Fan Expo, when I was walking around there last year I noticed a Cos Player had rented a booth. I had no issue with that, but it's sole purpose seemed to be so men would photograph her in her store bought (children's) Wonder Woman costume and well, business was good.

            Originally posted by kingdom warrior
            It's no different when you see playboy models signing pics of the issues they were in or selling pics of themselves at cons.

            I agree, to me both those things are the same. If it were up to me all that stuff would be in a separate room. I'm not against pornography, I just find it extremely disturbing around little kids. Maybe I'm too sensitive?

            Part of me admits that you can't shield kids from everything - like, my 11 year old nieces have most likely been exposed to the idea of pornography in some form already - but having it presented in the same venue as the sci-fi TV stars, where people are getting autographs, that seems incredibly wrong to me.

            And I'm with you Brian - I don't want my girls anywhere near a line up of dudes waiting to meet that underwear chick.

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            • Brazoo
              Permanent Member
              • Feb 14, 2009
              • 4767

              #21
              Originally posted by kingdom warrior
              Social media has totally changed who society sees as a celebrity.
              Every year at the Toronto Comic Art Festival I'm blown away by the fact that an online comic artist I've never heard of can have 100 people in line waiting to meet them.

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              • Brazoo
                Permanent Member
                • Feb 14, 2009
                • 4767

                #22
                Originally posted by cjefferys
                "Mississauga George Lucas" is a punk, and you would be witness to an epic slap fight sir. But on a serious note, hope you can make it to the show Aaron.

                I really want to go to the show - it's been ages. Things are a bit nuts now, but I'll try and work something out, and maybe arrange something with Ed.

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                • ubermanx
                  Career Member
                  • Jul 3, 2013
                  • 946

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cjefferys
                  Special guest "Ridgeway George Lucas" will be signing autographs at Mego North this September, but please....no hugging.
                  Isn't Mego North in November? Don't want you expecting to square off hoping for some moral support by Peterborough Silent Bob only to find yourself surrounded by retired wrestlers

                  http://www.toycon.ca/

                  As for the "cosplay issue". I'm all for people dressing up as their favourite characters. But when you go to a public event that children are going to I feel like you should not be getting your costume from an adult sex toy store in the aisle marked "Sexy Superhero". I definitely feel that "professional" cosplayers are not really appropriate as guests or for-profit exhibitors. That isn't to say I don't have respect for the art and skill that goes into making a really cool costume by hand.

                  And I REALLY don't understand the salivating creepy fans of "sexy cosplayers". Dude, the Internet. Lottsa porny stuff on it for free. Do you REALLY think that getting "Skimpy Shorts Mary-Jane Parker's" autograph and 8x10 for $20 will bring you ANY closer to getting her phone number? Let alone a date.

                  - Marty
                  Last edited by ubermanx; Jun 12, '15, 11:39 AM.

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                  • palitoy
                    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                    • Jun 16, 2001
                    • 59794

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ubermanx
                    Isn't Mego North in November?

                    Yep. I can't make the September show and knowing it's a wrasslin' themed event makes that absolutely painless.
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                    • cjefferys
                      Duke of Gloat
                      • Apr 23, 2006
                      • 10180

                      #25
                      Oh crap, I got my months mixed up. I'll probably be at both, but wrasslin' theme at the September one? *groan*

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                      • ubermanx
                        Career Member
                        • Jul 3, 2013
                        • 946

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cjefferys
                        Oh crap, I got my months mixed up. I'll probably be at both, but wrasslin' theme at the September one? *groan*
                        Seriously Chris, you need to get some b&w headshots done and sign them "Ridgeway George Lucas". I'll gladly hang that up in my office at work

                        - Marty

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                        • kingdom warrior
                          OH JES!!
                          • Jul 21, 2005
                          • 12478

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Brazoo
                          Every year at the Toronto Comic Art Festival I'm blown away by the fact that an online comic artist I've never heard of can have 100 people in line waiting to meet them.
                          Well, as you know that's a good thing. Especially for guys like us and the other Illustrators and writers on this board. Once upon ago getting into the comic Biz was either through Marvel or DC,Archie or through the independents many that came and went in the 90's. When blogging, Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram came, a great opportunity for artists and writers to showcase their arts opened doors for them to not only show their skills; but also make money for themselves independently. Des Taylor (DESPOP) for me is the perfect example of how showcasing his talent online made him into an internet art celebrity. It opened doors for his art, and with it has come a legion of fans for him. That would have never happened in the 70's or early 80's

                          Their was a time when you submitted work, and you may or may not have broken into the field of comic books. Sometimes you had to wait for feed back and rejection slips. Now online blogging and posting instantly gives you feed back from people who follow you or want to collect your work...which i think is a great thing.

                          Can you imagine if the internet was around when the Beatles were in Hamburg during the early 60's? Beatlemania may have started as early as 1960.


                          Steve.

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                          • Earth 2 Chris
                            Verbose Member
                            • Mar 7, 2004
                            • 32972

                            #28
                            I noticed this creeping into the Lexington Comic Con this year. They may have advertised a few cosplayers in the past, but their "real" guest list was thin. I guess all the out of work Power Rangers actors were busy that weekend or something.

                            It is an odd morphing of a section of fandom, but I guess if podcasters and website hosts can be guests, maybe these guys aren't much different.

                            Chris
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                            • VintageMike
                              Permanent Member
                              • Dec 16, 2004
                              • 3385

                              #29
                              Basically, I agree. While I've seen some cool costumes, other than that if I don't know who you (not your character) is I'm not giving you money. I've seen the type of event with only a few true guests and cosplayers and can only draw parallels to reality TV: Reality TV took off because they were cheap to make and real actors were not required. Same thing here: Some folks running shows probably feel they can pad the guest list with cosplayers, and cut down on the appearance fees.

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