Batman and Superman collectibles display

[LonnieFisher]

http://news.yahoo.com/batman-superman-collectibles-deck-slugger-museum-172815664.html

[LonnieFisher]

For all you who told me I was wrong, and all those who think I'm a liar...
Batman wore a purple cowl and gloves in the 1966 series!!!
I told you so years ago and was shunned by the community as a court jester style fool. Well, I was right, and here is the proof. An actual '66 Batman costume with purple cowl and gloves.
Everything made from the tv series should have a purple cowl. Please repaint all your customs and FTC needs to correct their paint applications in the future.
I tried to tell everybody, but nobody believed me.

P.S. I told you so!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Didn't the material fade over time?

Chris

[LonnieFisher]

Once again, people don't want to believe it was purple. If it faded, it was not while the show was filming. It was always purple and always will be. The proof will be denied forever it seems. Go back and look at pictures from the show and watch the show. I grew up with b&w tv until I was 22. It was all gray on tv for me. But just watch it and imagine your false assumption of blue was incorrect and see the real color.
Maybe it's like the black and blue that nobody agrees what color it is.

[enyawd72]

Blu-Ray don't lie brother. The outfit was navy blue.

Now, they DID have difficulty dyeing all the different materials to a perfect match...I'll give you that. The cowl does appear more purplish than the cape.

[LonnieFisher]

Blu-Ray don't lie brother. The outfit was navy blue.

Now, they DID have difficulty dyeing all the different materials to a perfect match...I'll give you that. The cowl does appear more purplish than the cape.

DVD was remastered...

[enyawd72]

^Yep, that's why it's the most accurate. Another thing to consider...we all see color differently, even in our right and left eyes. There is no question the cowl, gloves, and even the trunks look purplish in some episodes, often they didn't even match each other. It's clear most of the time that the cape and cowl do not even match. It was a matter of different materials accepting the dye differently, how often and how they were cleaned, etc. but the intent was to be navy blue, just as in the opening animation.

[LonnieFisher]

Here is more proof it was purple.

http://www.1966batmobile.com/props.htm

"Batman- The trademark costume worn by Adam West in the series, part of the only known complete and originally authentic pair of Batman and Robin costumes in the world! Our hero's costume consists of purple cowl with black inserts for bat-ear points and facial area, with contrasting gray eyebrow markings; blue satin cape; light gray one-piece upper body suit with dance strap and Bat emblem on chest; elbow length purple/black satin/suede gloves; yellow painted leather utility belt with attached compartments and brass emblem bat belt buckle; purple satin briefs with elastic waist band; light gray stockings; navy blue calf-length leather boots with zipper, actor's attribution and studio labeling throughout."

[LonnieFisher]

I don't understand why people think I'm wrong. Everything I find about the costume tell me I am right. Look at the costumes. Read what it says. It was more purple than blue! More purple aspects than blue ones. It isn't my opinion that it's purple, it's fact as told by the people who really know and have the actual items in hand. Come on, why deny the truth any longer. FTC made the costume the wrong color, and should make a variation that is the right color. I might actually buy one if it was the correct color scheme.

[enyawd72]

^Lonnie, the costume in that photo is so obviously faded from age it's not even funny. The caption also says BLUE satin cape. The cape and cowl are supposed to be the same color yes? So if you're right, the cowl and gloves aren't faded, but the cape somehow turned blue.

[Hedji]

I'll just weigh in. I'm not an expert. That would be a fella named Chuck Williams, who on the Batman 66 board, has mastered the art of Batman costume reproduction. Chuck has spent a lot of time with an original costume owned by Mark Hardeman. This man knows so much about batman fabrics, it's frankly scary. The cape is satin. The Cowl, gloves, and trunks are all spandex. That is why the cape remained blue but the cowl, trunks, and gloves turned purple over time. Different fabric, so it held the dye differently.

[neogelion]

It probably was purple so that the different parts of the suit would contrast to each other. Once the suit was filmed it appeared blue. The same thing was done on Vader's helmet with the silver details painted on so the details on the face would pop. Another example is Burton's Dark Shadows. Barnabis is wearing a Green overcoat to contrast with the black suit, but once it is filmed it all looks black.

[PNGwynne]

^This.

I can speak as a costumer and reference stage designs: How something is actually made, and in what color, is different from how it is perceived by the audience when lit--and filmed/photographed. Contrast and distance, are factors, too.

I think it's important to acknowledge this and consider intent, as we all know the colors used in George Reeve's Superman suit in the B&W episodes. As far as "purple" goes on Batman'66, there's Batman's suit, then there's Batgirl's and accessories like Penguin's and Riddler's.

[LonnieFisher]

I'm glad some of you understand. neogelion and PNGwynne seem to get it.

[PNGwynne]

Lonnie--folks are not disagreeing with you that some costume elements are purplish. They're balking at your assertion that the suit "is purple." It's meant to be perceived/photographed as dark blue. The cape and boots are dark blue, proof of this intent.

The other perceived "purples" of the show have much more red in them to read properly: Batgirl's costume, villain and henchman accessories. Even Romero's Joker tuxedo is magenta--and I'll bet in person it's almost vermillion.

Truce?