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  • Earth 2 Chris
    Verbose Member
    • Mar 7, 2004
    • 32970

    #16
    Yeah! Lois Lane has NEVER tried to do that in the 75 year history of their relationship!!! ... oh wait...

    They should go back to the story lines where Lois either tried to trick Superman into marrying her, or tried to discover his secret identity every other issue, and he'd just messed with her for fun. Ah, the good ol' days eh?
    I knew someone would bring that up. But Lois was a horribly selfish person back then. I hate to see her backpedal.

    Chris
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    • boss
      Talkative Member
      • Jun 18, 2003
      • 7217

      #17
      This is the last Superman comic I ever purchased. I quit reading it 1/2 way through the first issue.

      Originally posted by The Bat
      The last time I enjoyed a Superman storyline was of course...
      Fresh, not from concentrate.

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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        #18
        Originally posted by The Bat
        The last time I enjoyed a Superman storyline was of course...
        That baby faced Supes looks almost as bad as Tom Welling...almost...

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        • johnnystorm
          Hot Child in the City
          • Jul 3, 2008
          • 4293

          #19
          I think the problem modern writers face with Superman is that he just doesn't fit into the cynical world they enjoy working in. An upstanding, loyal defender of truth, justice, and the American Way? Not someone you can bend and twist in odd ways for a shocking storyline. So they resort to playing hob with the supporting cast.
          I actually think the creative teams get bored with Superman, or tired of the company restrictions handling the character entails. Says a lot about the world we live in where a person who always tries to do the right thing is considered lame.

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          • samurainoir
            Eloquent Member
            • Dec 26, 2006
            • 18758

            #20
            Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
            I knew someone would bring that up. But Lois was a horribly selfish person back then. I hate to see her backpedal.

            Chris
            Have any of us actually read the context of this storyline to be able to say whether it's back-peddling or just a more contemporary interpretation? I doubt modern writers would go the 50's route.

            I'd say this would most likely be a tactic to get their Courtship formula kick-started again. The novelty of the Superman/Wonder Woman pairing isn't going to last as we all know. Lois and Clark/Superman is inevitable, but how do you delay that actual pairing for as long as possible? What better way of giving them room to develop, than start them off on adversarial footing? John Byrne did exactly that at the start of his reboot, by making Lois ticked at Clark for stealing the Superman scoop out from under her. Clark really had to work hard to win her after that. And we finally got to see CLARK courting her... NOT Superman, which was weirdly novel, but within the range of expectations with the two characters. More recently Smallville introduced a Lois that also didn't get along with Clark initially, so that they could milk the courtship across five seasons. Hey, remember that time they delayed Superman getting married by killing him off? They will do all manner of contortions to avoid the married Superman because like Spider-Man, you really take away a component of the soap opera format off the table when you lock him down like that. You do away with Peter/Gwen/Mary Jane Love Triangles or Lois/Clark/Lana Love Triangle, you also kill any chances you might have with a younger readership that we all are hoping comics will one day regain. Even Archie Gets Married could only be sustained for a few years before they rebooted those imaginary timelines recently.

            I really think both Mary Jane and Lois stagnated as characters during the marriage years. There was just no more room to grow them, other than making them parents, which inevitably ages them away even more from a potentially younger readership. Not that there weren't classic and awesome stories written with the married versions of Superman and Spider-Man, but in these fictional circumstances, it is indeed all in the chase.

            I can't speak for Super-Man, but Spider-Man has been given a huge shot in the arm by reintroducing Peter to the angst and humiliation of dating life once again. An aspect to the character that was obviously a huge missing component when they got to play it out again with a teen Peter in Ultimate Spider-man. Peter dating Kitty Pryde was WRONG we all screamed on the internet... and sure enough within the context of the story Peter and Kitty discovered for themselves that they were wrong for each other, as teenagers will discover. And lo and behold, it made Peter's relationship with MJ stronger, and MJ a more interesting character because we got to see a range of emotions and conflict while Peter was dating Kitty Pryde instead of MJ. We got to see a set of conflicts and relationships we had really never seen before in Spider-Man... Peter dating another Super Hero, and how does that impact a "regular" girl like MJ? Soap Opera. Illusion of Change without actual change. Peter STILL ended up with MJ.

            So once again, with this "shocking" Superman "revelation" of Lois' seeming wrong-doing, we start off with some kind of illusion of change, or pretence at something different and surprising that gets the internet riled up and garnering press coverage. Only to fall into the same Lois-Clark formula, and Clark's secret identity somehow magically gets put back into the bottle by the Spectre or Mxyzptlk or something, just like Spider-man's secret identity revelation a few years ago went away magically by Mephisto or whatever.
            Last edited by samurainoir; Apr 28, '15, 12:41 AM.
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            • The Bat
              Batman Fanatic
              • Jul 14, 2002
              • 13412

              #21
              Originally posted by Hector
              That baby faced Supes looks almost as bad as Tom Welling...almost...

              That's what I love about you Hector, you'll beat a point of view to death. But I'm probably guilty of that too. BTW...Jim Lee is still the BEST!
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