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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    Paul Smith's Wonder Woman

    Love and War or: The Battle of the Bulges! I got a couple of e-mails today noting that Brian Cronin's recent Comic Book Legends Revealed mentioned the great Love and War disaster of '98 (Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman-Year One) and how it all fell apart… over cleavage! Sadly, the story is as true as it is bizarre. Brian contacted me about this months ago. That it took this long to see print suggests the unbelievable surplus of dirt Brian has on all of us… uh, Brian? How's that beer? Need a pillow? Cash? Cash is always good.




    He quit because they wanted him to draw Wonder Woman as she looked in the ongoing series at the time...
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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    #2


    Last edited by samurainoir; Feb 11, '15, 12:08 AM.
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    • Earth 2 Chris
      Verbose Member
      • Mar 7, 2004
      • 32982

      #3
      Yeah, I read about that over at "Comic Book Legends Revealed" on Friday. That's a shame. I'll take Smith any day over Wonder-Butt-Floss.

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      • huedell
        Museum Ball Eater
        • Dec 31, 2003
        • 11069

        #4
        Hmmm... it's not bad---I'm split---on one hand that "not long pants, yet not swimsuit" look appears more masculine than my expectations...HOWEVER, that may be the very thing Wonder Woman needs to define who she is as far as her beautifully feminine figure and her deliberately masculine approach to battle, and, frankly, her POV on "politics of the sexes" (i.e. her Amazonian belief "women that can be everything that men can be") which is a big part of the character.
        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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        • The Toyroom
          The Packaging King
          • Dec 31, 2004
          • 16653

          #5
          Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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          • Earth 2 Chris
            Verbose Member
            • Mar 7, 2004
            • 32982

            #6
            I believe Trina Robbins wanted to use the long shorts (as actually seen in the Golden and Silver Ages) in her "Legend of Wonder Woman" mini series, but DC insisted on the then-current higher-cut version.


            She got to lengthen them slightly for the Golden Age WW's Who's Who entry:



            So DC had a history of wanting to keep Wonder Woman's underwear in a wad...but they just went to extreme measures in the 90s!


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            • Figuremod73
              That 80's guy
              • Jul 27, 2011
              • 3017

              #7
              I'll take Smiths version over that one in the panels. Its interesting, Nov. 94 is just a little ways before John Byrne started his run on WW. It was one of the last books I read on a regular basis during that decade.

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              • huedell
                Museum Ball Eater
                • Dec 31, 2003
                • 11069

                #8
                I'm really "feeling" the Smith design at the moment. I'm thinking it would be cool to see a costume like this on the big screen at some point. It just feels right to hearken back to the Golden Age look, particularly for the shorts for this particularly more masculine female character...sure, as far as live-action adaptation, the shorts risk looking too pedestrian by appearing too similar to familiar gym-wear on the big screen, but done right, the shorts can look less "sports fitness" and more "warrior" imposing...

                ...heck, blueish-gray chain-mail with bright silver stars (that would match her silver bracelets) would work. And, maybe, the decorative stars could double as weapons---mini-throwing stars (as in Asian-type weaponry).
                "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                • kingdom warrior
                  OH JES!!
                  • Jul 21, 2005
                  • 12478

                  #9
                  Granny shorts bleh......pretty bland, Sorry I dug Mike Deodato's WW version a whole lot more than that frumpy version Paul Smith sketched.

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                  • Earth 2 Chris
                    Verbose Member
                    • Mar 7, 2004
                    • 32982

                    #10
                    ^When I was a teen I liked it, but it's honestly a bit too over the top for my tastes now. It's so overtly sexy...it's not. To me, anyway.

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                    • palitoy
                      live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                      • Jun 16, 2001
                      • 59802

                      #11
                      Yeah, I hated the Russ Meyer turn comics took in the 90s.
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                      • huedell
                        Museum Ball Eater
                        • Dec 31, 2003
                        • 11069

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                        Granny shorts bleh......pretty bland, Sorry I dug Mike Deodato's WW version a whole lot more than that frumpy version Paul Smith sketched.
                        Shorts? Yes. Granny? No. They're skin-tight. They may not be borderline pornography, but they DO show a woman's curves.
                        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                        • Hedji
                          Citizen of Gotham
                          • Nov 17, 2012
                          • 7246

                          #13
                          I don't really dig the bike shorts. But I'm not into the 90s aesthetic either. Middle of the road is just fine, thank you.

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                          • samurainoir
                            Eloquent Member
                            • Dec 26, 2006
                            • 18758

                            #14
                            the irony being... Diana was in fact running around in Bike shorts at that point as well. I believe there is some debate about how much of that run Deodato himself was drawing as it progressed after his big North American breakthrough. He was on close to six monthly books or something at that point (Thor, Lady Supreme, Avengers, etc) with really mixed results, and employing a studio of assistants (many of whom have come into their own in subsequent years).

                            With that said, Deodato is a hugely skilled and versatile artist... it's likely his ability to find and exploit whichever style is popular at the time which accounts for his longevity. From his heavily Warren influenced look at the start of his career, through to the Liefeld style he was doing on Wonder Woman and other 90's books, to his contemporary stuff which leans much more heavily towards Hitch widescreen and photorealism (folks have noted how much his Norman Osborn channels Tommy Lee Jones).

                            This run was quite well written actually... folks should pickup the trades if only to keep those royalties rolling over to William Messner Loebs, a lovely man who fell on hard time in the past decade.

                            Last edited by samurainoir; Feb 11, '15, 5:23 PM.
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                            • samurainoir
                              Eloquent Member
                              • Dec 26, 2006
                              • 18758

                              #15
                              and think it all generally worked out for the best with Paul Smith ending up on a creator owned book with Starman writer James Robinson (his Golden Age co-creator) aimed at the then virtually non-existant market of young girls. With the explosion of fantasy graphic novels for that age group and gender in recent years (Amulet, Zita the Space Girl, Drama), it was twenty years ahead of it's time with the wrong distribution channels. I really liked Leave it to Chance a great deal and still appreciate it, and would hope for it's return.

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                              Smith's work on The Golden Age was frickin' awesome too!
                              Last edited by samurainoir; Feb 11, '15, 5:38 PM.
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