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Funny thing is, as a kid growing up in the 70's they were all just superheroes to me anyway. I never really thought about Marvel and DC as separate entities. They happily coexisted together alongside each other in all the toys, model kits, paper stuff, coloring books, etc, etc. There was a lot less of the US vs. THEM mentality that exists between the two companies today.
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I could see Antitrust covering market share, except there's no way Marvel would maintain all 52 titles. When Marvel was in bankruptcy court, DC had a rep who was there to pick the bones and just take Spidey and X-Men, possibly Hulk. That was it and the argument was the other titles didn't sell, had little brand awareness, or were duplicates of existing DC characters. For Marvel to get around antitrust, they could pare it all down to Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman books while merging other characters into existing Marvel titles. Justice League Avengers, for example.Comment
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I figured there might be a way for just certain characters to go. I just hope something like that doesn't happen for the comics.
I know in the 80s, There were talks between Marvel and Time/Warner for Marvel to license some of the DC characters, but it fell through.
But, Warners could license it's movie rights to Marvel to get them to make its films, lol. Certainly, there is no incentive for either to do it, but I'd love to see the essence of DC's characters respected by filmmakers as much as Marvels are.Last edited by madmarva; Aug 6, '14, 12:19 PM.Comment
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I used to be vehemently opposed to one company every owning the others characters. Since the New 52 came and any semblance of my DCU is gone, it wouldn't bother me so much if Marvel ever got them.
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What would be kind of cool is if they could somehow do it as an alternate reality sort of thing. Swamp Thing in one universe is Man Thing in another universe.
Dr. Fate is Dr. Strange, etc.
Oh, who am I kidding...these guys can't keep their stuff straight now. Combining them would totally screw up everything.Comment
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WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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Dwayne, I think you're closer than you realize. Just look at the current parallels between Multiversity and the implosion of the Ultimate Universe, combined with Angelina's entrance from a disowned 10th realm, and then you have the grandaddy of Earth-2. It would be very, very easy to join DCU with 619 and then just flip characters back-n-forth. And you wouldn't even need to acknowledge Amalgalm or the other crossovers.Comment
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Yeah, DC should be worried. They can't even compete with a tree and a raccoon.Expectation is the death of discovery.Comment
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When you move too far away from what you are know for doing, you will lose your audience. Batman is their real only money maker at the movies. They keep forcing a newer version of their characters and the non comic book going fans eventually reject it. Marvel does well because it does not stray too far away from what people know, but Icons like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are harder sells to a public that already knows the classic version. They know the characters from their childhood, if it doesn't match up they hesitate to want to see it or accept it. DC does well with their animated series because it's homage to their comics......
Make a Batman Noir film set in the 40's or Gotham by Gaslight or Superman 38 that looks like he lives in the world of Buck Rogers and you just might make something pretty interesting......Last edited by kingdom warrior; Aug 6, '14, 1:48 PM.Comment
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What are the parallels between Ultimate Universe's implosion and Multiversity?Comment
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I think the problem isn't that DC wants to be Marvel... it appears they want to be Marvel circa 1996! The Grim 'n Gritty humourless approach. The costume design. Even the creative teams on the current crop of comics, particularly on 2nd and 3rd tier titles... many alumni of the post-Image exodus from Marvel.
I was willing to give the New 52 a chance, and there were some nice gems in there (Geoff Johns Aquaman, Azzerello and Chiang's Wonder Woman), but I've slowly shed titles (as they have played musical chairs with their creative teams) and my monthly reading list is very Marvel heavy in comparison.Last edited by samurainoir; Aug 6, '14, 3:39 PM.Comment
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The Big Avengers storyline building up the past year has been the slow-burn battle for survival as parallel universes collide in New Avengers every month and time got "broken" after Age of Ultron. Spider-Verse is the Spider-Man crossover event starting soon that involves every single parallel universe Spider-Man they can dig up or introduce.
It's been speculated for a long time about folding the Ultimate Universe into the 616... we'll see if that actually comes to pass. I think the Ultimate Universe was a victim of it's own success. Bendis and Millar were given free reign, and early on those title began to outsell their 616 counterparts, so Bendis and Millar were given free reign in the 616. Then many of the Ultimate concepts were adapted into the Marvel cinematic universe and also implemented into the 616 as a result. Ultimate universe needed to become much more radically different to differentiate itself from just a "Greatest Hits" contemporary reinvention of Silver Age Marvel, until it unrecognizable from its original core new reader/continuity friendly conceit. (with that said, I'm still enjoying ultimate Spider-man)Comment
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Dwayne was absolutely right - DC just blinked. They moved the release date back to March!!! Wow... Annnnnnd Superman is now rumored to be a anti-hero and Batman has been in existence for 30 years but never photographed? Geez... Here are the stories...
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