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  • madmarva
    Talkative Member
    • Jul 7, 2007
    • 6445

    SPOILER THREAD for X-MEN DAYS OF FUTURE PAST

    The other thread has remained spoiler free. Let's discuss spoilers in this one.


    The movie was very good in and of itself, but I love that it reset the timeline where virtually any story is possible.

    I know Apocalypse is up next, but what I'd really like to see following that is a proper version of the Hellfire Club/Dark Phoenix Saga directed by Singer, if the accusations against him are wrong.

    I want to See Jackaman in the sewers and him laying waste to a lot of clone-like soldiers. I want to see Kevin Bacon back as Sebastian Shaw kicking butt, I want Colossus to get a decent scene against a rotund Orson Wells lookalike as Leland Barclay. I want to see Mastermind (Jason Wyngard) seducing Jean with Mr. control Scott unable to do anything. I want to see Jean then fry MasterMind and the White Queen, for good Measure before zooming off into space and destroying a planet full of broccoli people.

    I want to see the x-men fight for Jean against some sort of intergalactic inquisition and I want to see Jean's unselfish sacrifice and a nice epilogue scene. I probably want too much, but with this film's reset, it's possible.

    Jackman's done a great job portraying Wolverine, and I don't blame the film producers for making him the focus of most of the films so far, but the heart of the X-men comics has always been Scott and Jean, even when she's dead, and then Scott and Emma. With Jackman wanting to step back or even totally away from the role, I'd like to see other characters take more important roles, even if it means recasting.

    As for the current film, I thought McAvoy gave a really fine performance as Xavier. No, it's not the Xavier we know from the comics but Seeing a young Xavier in this film and First Class arc from being a selfish prick to a hero was fun. Fassbender didn't have as showy a part as Magneto, but he was really good, too. Jennifer Lawrence wasn't bad, but just a little bland when she wasn't fighting. I just remember how gritty and intense she was in Winter's Bone, and it seems like see just skated through this film, letting the effects and blue make-up do the work.

    Jackman was fun playing off the other characters. The scene in the epilogue with Jansen and Marsden was excellent even though it was just seconds long. He also had nice scenes with McAvoy and Fassbender.

    Really have to give credit to Simon Kindberg, Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn for the story and script. They serviced a ton of characters fairly well. Shawn Ashmoore was likeavle in the small role he had as Iceman and we finally see him sliding on a nice bridge. And Evan Peters steals his scenes if not the movie as Quicksilver.

    The super-speed prison-break sequence works so well. There's a fine line between silly and fun, and the scene was note perfect to me. Peters was impish fun. This Quicksilver isn't the butthole of the comics, but this take worked so well and made the character far more likable.

    A movie like this is why sequels deserve to be made. Our familiarity and sympathy for the characters is why the film works so well. It's my favorite of the X-films, but it needed the character continuity of the other 4 films to work so well.
  • The Bat
    Batman Fanatic
    • Jul 14, 2002
    • 13412

    #2
    Originally posted by madmarva

    I know Apocalypse is up next, but what I'd really like to see following that is a proper version of the Hellfire Club/Dark Phoenix Saga directed by Singer, if the accusations against him are wrong.

    I want to See Jackaman in the sewers and him laying waste to a lot of clone-like soldiers. I want to see Kevin Bacon back as Sebastian Shaw kicking butt, I want Colossus to get a decent scene against a rotund Orson Wells lookalike as Leland Barclay. I want to see Mastermind (Jason Wyngard) seducing Jean with Mr. control Scott unable to do anything. I want to see Jean then fry MasterMind and the White Queen, for good Measure before zooming off into space and destroying a planet full of broccoli people.

    I want to see the x-men fight for Jean against some sort of intergalactic inquisition and I want to see Jean's unselfish sacrifice and a nice epilogue scene. I probably want too much, but with this film's reset, it's possible.

    Jackman's done a great job portraying Wolverine, and I don't blame the film producers for making him the focus of most of the films so far, but the heart of the X-men comics has always been Scott and Jean, even when she's dead, and then Scott and Emma. With Jackman wanting to step back or even totally away from the role, I'd like to see other characters take more important roles, even if it means recasting.
    Totally agree! I want ALL of this!! Scott and Jean are the heart and soul of the X-Men to me as well...and my favorite 2 X-Men. I of course love Wolverine, but he always gets the spotlight. Time to give someone else a turn...name the 1st two X-Men...Scott and Jean!!
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    • The Bat
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      • Jul 14, 2002
      • 13412

      #3
      Just saw it...AWESOME! LOVED IT! Man, it was great to see that crap fest X-Men 3 erased. Now the future looks bright for Marvel's Mutants!
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      • samurainoir
        Eloquent Member
        • Dec 26, 2006
        • 18758

        #4
        Loved how they retconned out X-Men Last Stand, and that moment with Scott and Jean at the end was priceless.

        Too bad Anna Paquin's Rogue only had such a small cameo. If this "spoiler" rumour was true, I think it would have been much more fitting for Rogue to be Wolverine's final "anchor".
        Late last year, director Bryan Singer stated that Anna Paquin’s one major scene as Rogue in X-Men: Days of Future Past had been cut from the film. In the final trailer for the film, Paquin’s name was included in the credits, which raised some eyebrows. A representative from Twentieth Century Fox confirmed that Paquin’s Rogue […]


        and that was Kelsey Grammer in the blue make-up at the end right?

        Might be my favourite X-Men movie yet.
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        • clemso
          Talkative Member
          • Aug 8, 2001
          • 6189

          #5
          That was better than I was expecting, so very happy. I was wondering too if that was a Kelsey Grammer cameo or Nicholas Hoult doing a very good impression of him.

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          • ScottA
            Original Member
            • Jun 25, 2001
            • 12264

            #6
            I saw it today with my sons. We all thought it was pretty good. The Quicksilver bit was great.
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            • Sideshow Spock
              valar morghulis
              • Mar 8, 2005
              • 2859

              #7
              Saw it last weekend, I left feeling like the movie had done a good job with many things, but I still felt vaguely unsatisfied with it. It felt like there was a very sizable middle portion of this movie where nothing X-traordinary happened, just lots of yakking and traveling around. I find Beast, Mystique, and Xavier (and Wolvie too, to an extent) to be boring characters (especially from a "powers" perspective), and having such a focus on them again left me flat.

              I was hoping to see more of the X-men, not just "First Class Meets Wolverine". I'm also bitter than I'm still waiting to see a decent appearance by Colossus, who was one of my favorite characters when I was reading the books in the 80s. Oh, but at least I got to see him get torn in half by a couple Sentinels..

              I agree that the Quicksilver scene was fantastic, the movie really benefited from his presence.

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              • Earth 2 Chris
                Verbose Member
                • Mar 7, 2004
                • 32932

                #8
                Saw this with the boy today, and was VERY satisfied. I enjoyed it a lot more than expected, and the reset at the end had my pumped. I elbowed my son when Scott came on screen. So great that they fixed the wrong-headed moves from some of the other films, and it wasn't in a contrived way. The story itself was very entertaining, and it switched courses well, not being telegraphed from 10 miles away like so many films these days. All in all, a standout in the series...maybe the best!

                Chris
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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32932

                  #9
                  Anyone catch Len Wein and Chris Claremont at the meeting Trask had with congressmen early in the film? That was a nice nod to the two writers who rebooted the franchise.

                  No Stan Lee, that i saw.

                  Chris
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                  • chazz530
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 20, 2013
                    • 305

                    #10
                    Saw it last night and except for the Quicksilver scenes & end cameos I thought it was a major league disappointment. I can't believe considering the source material how boring it was. Still not sure how they ruined such a promising storyline with that slow moving, predictable, drawn out dribble I witnessed last night.
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                    • The Bat
                      Batman Fanatic
                      • Jul 14, 2002
                      • 13412

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                      Saw this with the boy today, and was VERY satisfied. I enjoyed it a lot more than expected, and the reset at the end had my pumped. I elbowed my son when Scott came on screen. So great that they fixed the wrong-headed moves from some of the other films, and it wasn't in a contrived way. The story itself was very entertaining, and it switched courses well, not being telegraphed from 10 miles away like so many films these days. All in all, a standout in the series...maybe the best!

                      Chris

                      Totally agree with you Chris!!
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                      • MysteryWho
                        Persistent Member
                        • Dec 16, 2008
                        • 1047

                        #12
                        Just saw it and quite enjoyed it. I've liked most of the X-Men movies, partly due to the fact that I am NOT a big fan of the source material. I'm pickier about other comic movies that I was more of a fan of while growing up. So I can grasp why some fans might not like them, but to me the storylines are only vaguely familiar so I scrutinize less I suppose. I agree with most folks that the weakest of the series were the third and the Wolverine origins films. I did enjoy that they were cleanly excised by the new story. I was only really worried about Quicksilver (I read a lot of Avengers), but once I saw that it was a youthful, "Dazed and Confused" version of him I relaxed and enjoyed his part immensely. Overall, one of the best of the series.

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                        • huedell
                          Museum Ball Eater
                          • Dec 31, 2003
                          • 11069

                          #13
                          No better or worse than the original trilogy (X3 included), except for the one point that ultimately made it MUCH better: It had FIRST CLASS (the clear best of all X-films) as a basis to work with.

                          That said---good superhero watchin'.
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                          • huedell
                            Museum Ball Eater
                            • Dec 31, 2003
                            • 11069

                            #14
                            Originally posted by megoknight
                            Huedell Liked a superhero movie? Well yesterday was friday the 13th.
                            Days Of Future Past is a "charmed" choice for me, due to it's connection with First Class.

                            I'm proud (and, admittedly, confused) that my standards for superhero movies are quite focused. "Proud" because I freakin' LOVE superheroes, and, I too, am surprised at how little value I see in the films made for them...enough to not let myself be "blinded" by spandex, rubber or leather

                            My top favorite superhero movies are an odd bunch---Unbreakable is my favorite---but not DC or Marvel. So it's hard to see Unbreakable as an "actual" superhero movie.

                            The full list of superhero movies that I give passing grades too are: X-Men: First Class, Captain America: The First Avenger, Amazing Spider-Man 2---and not much else I can think of. I despised ASM1, BUT it's sequel somehow salvaged my feelings for the franchise, and I now have a lot of hope for ASM3.

                            Dark Knight Returns has grown on me... I've always been impressed by Heath's Joker, but I just feel that Two-Face's story bloated the film a bit.

                            The Avengers was a neat mix---I mean, I didn't love it, but no true self-respecting superhero fan could bag that much on it. And it gave me a chance to enjoy RJD as Iron Man finally. Didn't "love" Norton's Hulk movie but still liked it way better than every Thor/Iron Man movie made.

                            In retrospect, ESPECIALLY taking into consideration recent animated DC material--- I personally find the "classic Supes & Bats" Burton/Schumacher and Salkind days horribly lacking. Not that I don't celebrate them time to time. They're the epitome of nostalgia to a 42 year old in 2014.

                            The tone and the enjoyment I get out of the Raimi Spider-Man movies is similar to what I get out of the early X-Men movies---in many respects, that equates to "better than the DC stuff that preceded it, but still inferior to what was ultimately released as Days Of Future Past's predecessor (First Class)".

                            FC had notably more to offer than DOFP, but, dang, FC is a lot to compete with!

                            It's exciting to hear they are making another sequel with the FC/DOFP actors.

                            Obviously, I have high hopes
                            Last edited by huedell; Jun 14, '14, 10:12 PM.
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                            • drquest
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                              • Apr 17, 2012
                              • 3861

                              #15
                              I got to watch this with my son last night and I really enjoyed it. Much better than I expected.

                              Quicksilver really stole the scenes he was in I think...
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