Is anyone still reading Superior Spiderman?

[kingdom warrior]

Can't say I'm a fan of the new "ethereal" art style that many comics go with nowadays, as seen above. I'm not saying the artists aren't talented, but i don't feel it suits the medium well.

Chris

Classic comics are about good straight storytelling with beautiful art, that can be seen clearly not cluttered. John Buscema is the classic example of a Great story teller and great draftsman. when Bill Sienkiewicz started doing the fine arts look for comics, for me I thought it was out of place. Lot's of style but difficult for the eyes to follow.....he opened the door for that style you see today in comics.......

[ubermanx]

"Is anyone still reading Superior Spider-Man?"

Not for long ...

http://www.newsarama.com/19992-is-ma...pider-man.html

But I do have to admit that the story line was fun and a good distraction for awhile but it is indeed time to bring Peter back.

- Marty

[chazz530]

I myself have enjoyed the heck out of Superior Spider-Man much to my own surprise. I picked it up out of curiosity thinking it was the dumbest thing I ever heard of but they have proven me wrong. They different scenarios the storyline has brought forth have been really enjoyable. Plus it's still better than the majority of the new 52.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Classic comics are about good straight storytelling with beautiful art, that can be seen clearly not cluttered. John Buscema is the classic example of a Great story teller and great draftsman. when Bill Sienkiewicz started doing the fine arts look for comics, for me I thought it was out of place. Lot's of style but difficult for the eyes to follow.....he opened the door for that style you see today in comics.......

Agreed. I like Sienkiewicz on covers and static images, but his storytelling is barely that. It's all style over substance, and you need substance to tell a story. Masters of the form such as Alex Toth and Darwyn Cooke can do both...most can't.

Chris

[knight errant00]

Gonna disagree a bit on Sienkiewicz -- back when he was imitating Neal Adams (think his first ongoing Moon Knight series with Moench) his work was up there with the best in style and storytelling. Then he went all . . . Sienkiewicz-y, and never looked back.

[samurainoir]

Looking back at "Marvel Now" as Marvel's response to DC's New 52, where all the longtime writers were shuffled around titles and given new #1's, you can see this was obviously Dan Slott's way of continuing to (eventually) write Peter Parker's adventures long-term. Not that they weren't heading this way anyways with Doc taking over Peter's body, but I'm suspecting it became a much longer arc as a result.

Marvel's regained their market-share as a result of the lesson they learned from DC about the selling power of new #1's. This way, they get 2 Spider-Man #1's out of it in the span of a year. Despite the fact that the creative team is not changing.

Mark Waid is staying on Daredevil and Hulk, but they are getting new #1's as well, despite the fact that they were both given new #1's when he came on board. Hopefully this works and more eyeballs land on Waid's DD, which is a good ol' fashioned fun superhero book these days. Not that I wasn't a fan of the gritty crime stuff Bendis and Brubaker did, but this feels a great palette cleanser after decades of the grim 'n gritty.

[kingdom warrior]

Gonna disagree a bit on Sienkiewicz -- back when he was imitating Neal Adams (think his first ongoing Moon Knight series with Moench) his work was up there with the best in style and storytelling. Then he went all . . . Sienkiewicz-y, and never looked back.

Yes, his Moon Knight was classic,I remember his MK from The Rampaging Hulk magazine, BUT.....then later on he went completely away from that and all I remember just having an incredibly hard time following his story telling.......It looked more like pretty paintings than a working grid panel. Just like he imitated Neal Adams Newer guys are imitating him, problem with that is young guys are not going to learn proper storytelling by imitating his later work. If you want to learn great story telling you learn from the old masters first, then can you can move into your own style.

That applies almost to all fields, that's why young men would become an apprentice First to a veteran, so they can learn the proper way of doing something until they handle doing something on their own.

[kingdom warrior]

Agreed. I like Sienkiewicz on covers and static images, but his storytelling is barely that. It's all style over substance, and you need substance to tell a story. Masters of the form such as Alex Toth and Darwyn Cooke can do both...most can't.

Chris

Agreed, Toth could do some amazing things once he established a shot, Cooke is just pure throwback, and good storytelling with style.......

[enyawd72]

Yes, his Moon Knight was classic,I remember his MK from The Rampaging Hulk magazine, BUT.....then later on he went completely away from that and all I remember just having an incredibly hard time following his story telling.......It looked more like pretty paintings than a working grid panel. Just like he imitated Neal Adams Newer guys are imitating him, problem with that is young guys are not going to learn proper storytelling by imitating his later work. If you want to learn great story telling you learn from the old masters first, then can you can move into your own style.

That applies almost to all fields, that's why young men would become an apprentice First to a veteran, so they can learn the proper way of doing something until they handle doing something on their own.

Couldn't agree more. Also, I think there's a certain vanity plaguing a lot of today's artists and writers. It manifests itself in a number of ways, but mostly in a lack of respect for what has come before. These new guys treat characters as if they own them, rather than being custodians of them. Rather than serving the characters, it's all about showing how much better "their version" is.

A perfect example of this is Joe Quesada using the live-action segments of the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon (which he executive produces)as a platform to refer to himself as Marvel's "master artist" and "legendary" and tout how much better his Ultimates version of Spider-Man is than the classic.

[The Bat]

I'm not a fan of Ramos's art either...but if Peter is truly returning, then I'll have no choice but to buy the book. I can't help myself...I'm been following Peter Parker's all my life. I wanted to learn read as a kid so I could read Spiderman comics. That says something good about Comics.

[samurainoir]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50212

[Earth 2 Chris]

^I love how these modern writers can't help but openly diss a segment of fandom every time they speak. Obviously, Superior sold well. But it just seems really childish of him to openly attack folks who post on message boards. I know they can be rabid idiots, but he could take the high road and just not mention it. They purposely stir that crowd up, and then make fun of them when they react the way they expected. Classy.

Chris

[The Bat]

^I love how these modern writers can't help but openly diss a segment of fandom every time they speak. Obviously, Superior sold well. But it just seems really childish of him to openly attack folks who post on message boards. I know they can be rabid idiots, but he could take the high road and just not mention it. They purposely stir that crowd up, and then make fun of them when they react the way they expected. Classy.

Chris

Well said Chris! You hit the nail on the head!

[Fuzzysnail]

Yeah Peters Back...I was told this will only run to issue #31. Thank goodness. At least I will save money till the new Amazing#1.

[FETT1]

..I gave up ...but MARVEL and their money makin ideas are bringing back my FAV SPIDEY-PETER PARKER...