New 52 Lobo

[palitoy]

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....something Lobo isn't known for at all....

It was always a bit tongue in cheek before, DC is calling the previous incarnation "Campy". I'm gonna guess that this one will be all serious.

[PNGwynne]

"Camp" is a word often used in fandom, including here. I'm willing to bet money I don't have that almost no-one currently at DC can define it accurately.

There were scenes/aspects of the Nolan films that were total camp, but these films were supposedly "realistic" and the template for all that is "right" in a post-modern superhero film.

Regarding the New 52 Lobo, are they going for a slimmer, space-age Elric vibe? I'm not buying it...

[ctc]

>"Camp" is a word often used in fandom,

....as an ego guard to justify the sillier, offbeat stuff that's entertaining but might cause someone to think of their beloved character as "wacky" or *gasp* "juvenile.

>I'm willing to bet money I don't have that almost no-one currently at DC can define it accurately.

NOBODY can.... especially when you try applying it to something like a superhero setting. So.... the weird biker alien guy is camp, but a dude in a leather bat-mask is serious?

>I'm gonna guess that this one will be all serious.

It's possible, 'specially since the new designs have a very RPG-ish feel to them: detailed, demonstrative of design (especially the "hard" items like equipment) but without expression or feel of any kind.

....is it just me, or does Bigger Lobo have Wolverine's sideburns?

Don C.

[BlackKnight]

They Shoulda Went Chick ....



G ... with B's Bra and Hair.

[ctc]

>They Shoulda Went Chick ....

Holee Smokes! It's a chorus line of 2000AD background characters!

Don C.

[hedrap]

When it's Nu52, the first question you should ask yourself is "Does this work for a film/tv adaptation", because that's the editorial mandate.

So, a skinny, 20ish Lobo makes perfect sense, since the studios are full Pattinson's, Coopers and whoever. They are not full of giant muscle-bound Texeria monsters and casting agents/agencies are not attracted to those types for multiple reasons.

They are all horrendous designs, just as the original Omega Men Lobo design was. The biggest problem, and I think this is what they were trying to solve with the "stolen identity" angle, is how Lobo's associated with parody. He doesn't fit in the current DC context and is going to have most of his ground covered by Guardians o/t Galaxy.

[ctc]

>They are all horrendous designs, just as the original Omega Men Lobo design was.

You don't dig the 2-tone purple and orange? *snicker* Oh, the 80's.... trying so hard to outweird the 70's....

>first question you should ask yourself is "Does this work for a film/tv adaptation", because that's the editorial mandate.

THAT'S a good point; and I think it answers why we see so many common elements across the entire span of nerdly arts. Not just with DC.

>I think this is what they were trying to solve with the "stolen identity" angle, is how Lobo's associated with parody. He doesn't fit in the current DC context and is going to have most of his ground covered by Guardians o/t Galaxy.

That's a good point too. I wonder if there isn't a bit of the ol' "testing the water" going on as well. Do a radical redo and see how it goes over. If it doesn't, then maybe THAT Lobo wasn't actually THE Lobo.

Y'know.... this reminds me a LOT of the "All False Rons" subplot from the earliest Post Bros comics.

Don C.

[hedrap]

I wonder if there isn't a bit of the ol' "testing the water" going on as well. Do a radical redo and see how it goes over. If it doesn't, then maybe THAT Lobo wasn't actually THE Lobo.
Don C.

Absolutely. I really couldn't imagine being Dido, Johns or Quesadilla. Every decision is put through a Rube Goldberg "Risk Factor Remover" machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-7uLg-DZU

[ctc]

>Every decision is put through a Rube Goldberg "Risk Factor Remover" machine.

HAW! And any time someone says "I have an idea" a little hammer hits them between the eyes.

It's an unfortunate thing that anthologies do so poorly for the Big Two-ish. Not only were they a staple up to the 80's, but they're a good way of testing things with the audience. Throw a bunch of stuff out there and see what sticks. I suspect it was the big "and printed on super Baxter white ultimate wonder colour!" plus the salaries celebrity cartoonists were pulling in during the 80's that did it. They priced their books out of the "impule buy" level, so folks wanted 24 pages of Batman, not 15 plus some stupid "Scooter" revival.

An anthology that you could get to the public would be great, considering how many factions there are in comic fandom these days. Hell; digital would be a great way to test things too, except there's a tendency to price digital copies comperably with print; so they're not that much cheaper and still out of the impule buy range.

Don C.

[thunderbolt]

^^ Yeah, I seriously expected digital to be way more affordable than it is. I find it annoying to use, then its the same price as a floppy and you basically get nothing. I tried it and moved on to trade waiting for stuff I really want to read.

[Spyweb007]

I thought Lobo was tall and thin first time I saw the character back in the rebooted Justice League comics in the late 80's. This new design looks more like Lobo did back then, not really that new. I don't know exactly when or how he got to the steroid monster look we've become familiar with.

[ctc]

>I tried it and moved on to trade waiting for stuff I really want to read.

I think you'll see the compilation paperbacks for a while, since that's still how the higest percentage of actual comic book is moved these days. The Japanese and Korean stuff is all collected, Archie is still sold mostly in digest form, and even the independents and undergrounds move tons of paper compilations. Even the Big Two-ish sell those honkin' huge collections, special release collections, collector's collections....

>I thought Lobo was tall and thin first time I saw the character back in the rebooted Justice League comics in the late 80's.

Yup. He started in purple and orange superhero tights when he appeared in the Omega Men, and then in the Justice League and L.E.G.I.O.N. books he was still proportional, although they turned him into a space biker. When he started getting his own books and Bisley was foing the art he went full on 'roid-rage. 'Cos that's how Bisley draws.

Don C.