Who would win? The Avengers or JLA?

[Hector]

[Hector]

I know it's a lot more members, and you can mix and match...but decided to pit a JLA team to go against the Avengers movie version team.

[Bruce Banner]

The movie versions of the Avengers are overall less powerful than the comic book Avengers.
The best match up for me would be both teams in their comic book incarnations.

I would love to see another JLA/Avengers confrontation (the 2003 Busiek-Perez series was pretty good).

The original 80s Avengers/JLA book would also have been awesome, had it ever been finished & published.





These earlier versions of the characters would be great in a match up, too.



And how epic would this battle be?

[thunderbolt]

Easy, JLA has Batman.

[Bionicfanboy66]

Avengers has Thor. Let's see, a demi-god versus a guy in a batsuit with no super powers to speak of. Got any kryptonite for Superman handy?

[The Toyroom]

It all boils down to each team's D-listers and fourth stringers:

JLA: General Glory, Maxima, Bloodwynd, Triumph, Mystek, Faith, Manitou Raven

Avengers: Gilgamesh, D-Man, Rage, Living Lightning, Silverclaw, Triathalon, Darkhawk

[thunderbolt]

Avengers has Thor. Let's see, a demi-god versus a guy in a batsuit with no super powers to speak of. Got any kryptonite for Superman handy?

Superman already beat Thor nearly to death.

[enyawd72]

Superman already beat Thor nearly to death.

Only because that's what some writer wrote. I can write a story where Curt Connors whips up a mutant virus that kills Superman.
These kind of discussions are always pointless. No matter powers, rankings, or anything else, the writer decides who wins and loses. Simple as that.
And as for Batman? Please. Enough already. The guy had his spine broken by a glorified Lucha Libre. Bane could've killed him any time he wanted to.

[madmarva]

Anthony, I don't even consider the characters you mentioned as real Avengers or JLAers, lol. They were just guys who hung around when the big guns were too busy to be around.

For whatever reason, I've just always considered the DC characters at a higher power levels across the board, but that's just me. It may be a part of that "realism" thing — cough snobbery — Marvel fans always brag about. Just a joke. I consider myself a Marvel fan, I'm just a bigger DC snob.

Quick Silver is considered to have super speed, but he's never demonstrated the speed or other speed-related powers of the Flash.

As for Thor being a god, well, that's just what the ignorant humans who interacted with him in ancient times labeled him.

I don't see the Marvel characters as being inferior to DC characters, but just from reading the comics, the scale of the powers they exhibit aren't on as high a level as the silver-age versions of the DC characters, at least to my mind.

But I will add that Green Lantern was a huge powerhouse character in the sliver age when the majority of the stories focused only on Hal Jordan. Of your human-like characters (throwing Superman and Martian Manhunter in this category), power-wise, he was second only to Superman.

But, since Geoff Johns brought the GL Corp back and the GLs began to function more together than they did in the silver age or 1960s when it was rare for one GL to interact with another, I sense them being powered down a great deal. That just may be me.

As for the new 52 versions of the characters, I've not read enough of it to get a true sense if the current versions of the characters are as powerful as the more traditional silver-age or JLA satellite era. My notion is that they aren't as powerful.

But, to me, the true tale of the tape is which book is the story appearing in? If it's the character's own book, he's got the advantage. Even in the classic Dare Devil No. 7, Sub-Mariner slaps Matt Murdock around the whole issue but DareDevil wins because Namor is so impressed with DDs never-give-up attitude and overall valor that he just walks back into the ocean.

So maybe after the JLA mops the floor up with the Avengers, Superman and his pals will just walk away from Marvel's mightiest team out of condescending respect for how hard Iron Man and the boys tried.

Oh, if the Avengers did win — even if Peter Parker made a continuity-altering deal with Memphisto — well then Hal Jordan Paralax would just come along and rewrite history to make things right for the JLA.

[Bruce Banner]

Superman already beat Thor nearly to death.

Superman admits he beat Thor "just barely", and he most certainly didn't beat him "nearly to death".
It definitely wouldn't have been as easy as that for Superman to take down Thor. No way.

So maybe after the JLA mops the floor up with the Avengers, Superman and his pals will just walk away from Marvel's mightiest team out of condescending respect for how hard Iron Man and the boys tried.

[ctc]

>I've just always considered the DC characters at a higher power levels across the board

Easy to do since a lot of them were created during the "lesse.... I'll just move the sun out of my way" era of comic heroics.

Don C.

[palitoy]

These kind of discussions are always pointless. No matter powers, rankings, or anything else, the writer decides who wins and loses. Simple as that.

I kinda liken them to the adult version of "my dad can beat up your dad".

[Hector]

Easy, JLA has Batman.

[B-Lister]

Sorry, I like Marvel, but I LOVE DC. My bias sez JLA.

[Timothy2251]

I'd figure whichever team wins would be a last man standing deal, as both teams would be pretty much wiped out, all said and done. It'd heavily depend on who was on the roster for each team, but it'd likely be the JLA, with a very tired and bruised Superman going "We... win." before he passes out on top of a defeated Thor.

Tactics are what's going to win this battle, and the best tactician on both teams would have to be Captain America. As good as Batman is, Cap has actual battlefield training to draw from, and you just KNOW he's trained the Avengers to function like a military unit, having each member play off each other's powers and skill sets. He could easily have Thor bring the thunder, literally, and with one monstrous lightning bolt, half of the JLA would be down (I'm thinking Green Lantern, Aquaman, etc. Maybe the Flash, too, but it'd depend on if he had enough lead time to figure out where the bolt was coming from and going to hit. Sure, he can outrace lightning, but what of the shockwave?). That being said, Batman would likely peg Cap as the prime target. Take out the head, and the body would be useless... until Thor, who has THOUSANDS of years of combat experience, takes command.

Cap would take out Batman (even Batman admitted this would be likely), but he'd be dog-tired and wounded, easy prey for a JLA'er to clock him one. Iron Man, if he's still functioning, would probably whip up some doodad from his armor to zap the offending JLA'er a good one, before getting zapped himself by another JLA'er, and so on.

Ultimately, it'd boil down to Superman vs. Thor, with everyone else sidelined. I'd give it to Superman, barely, because of sheer determination and maybe an edge in the strength department, as in the JLA/Avengers team-up. Still the remaining Avengers were able to take out Superman after that as he was completely shot from the fight.

The real winners, however, would be us readers!