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  • suspense39
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 16, 2008
    • 354

    WOW!! And I mean WOW!

  • Iron Mego
    Wake Up Heavy
    • Jan 31, 2010
    • 3537

    #2
    Gorgeous.!
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    • Figuremod73
      That 80's guy
      • Jul 27, 2011
      • 3017

      #3
      Thats gonna be some major $$$$ First Kirby I've seen thats a whole story.

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      • Brazoo
        Permanent Member
        • Feb 14, 2009
        • 4767

        #4
        Unreal!

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        • kingdom warrior
          OH JES!!
          • Jul 21, 2005
          • 12478

          #5
          I just love seeing original art....you can learn so much from it...the brush strokes...especially the Kirby Krackle Amazing!

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          • toys2cool
            Ultimate Mego Warrior
            • Nov 27, 2006
            • 28605

            #6
            oh wow! great stuff
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            • Random Axe
              The Voice of Reason
              • Apr 16, 2008
              • 4518

              #7
              It's literally taken till I'm 43 years old to appreciate Kirby. I couldn't stand his awkward, constipated faces and unnatural poses twenty years ago, but I'm kind of digging this and can see why he was such an influence. I do see a lot of permanent/freezer marker work on those pages. Good to know even the mightiest of pros use those. One of my favorite art tools is the might Sharpie.
              I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.

              If anyone here believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand.

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              • kingdom warrior
                OH JES!!
                • Jul 21, 2005
                • 12478

                #8
                Originally posted by Random Axe
                I do see a lot of permanent/freezer marker work on those pages. Good to know even the mightiest of pros use those. One of my favorite art tools is the might Sharpie.
                I seriously doubt there is any sharpie marker work, that was a no no, especially because of the paste up work that was used on those pages thinner would have made a mess of those lines if anything but black india was used....Look at those pages Sharpies may be permanent but they fade and look purple over the years......

                Vince Colletta was also an old school Illustrator who could make perfect circles with a brush, I seriously doubt he used sharpies as that was frowned upon for reproduction art especially in those days......Marker drawings were used for comp drawings not final work...Colletta used the dip pen and brush I'm sure the lines were ruled by a ruling pen which was the norm of the day or a rapidograph or Fountain pen......sharpies were considered amateurish

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                • Random Axe
                  The Voice of Reason
                  • Apr 16, 2008
                  • 4518

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                  sharpies were considered amateurish
                  I remember John Byrne admitting to drawing an entire issue of FF with one. Of course it sucked and he's a jerk, but it is a valuable item for an artist. It just looks like some of the larger areas are markered in and not brushed ink unless there was some serious fading going on. It looks a whole lot like marker on bristol to me, but then I'm not an inker. The comic publisher I worked for used these all the time for fill-ins. But you're probably right that Kirby did not.
                  I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.

                  If anyone here believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand.

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                  • Marvelmania
                    A Ray of Sunshine
                    • Jun 17, 2001
                    • 10392

                    #10
                    Berto would love this!!!

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                    • suspense39
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 16, 2008
                      • 354

                      #11
                      I didn't like Kirby faces either when I was young comic reading kid. Like em now!

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                      • kingdom warrior
                        OH JES!!
                        • Jul 21, 2005
                        • 12478

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Random Axe
                        I remember John Byrne admitting to drawing an entire issue of FF with one. Of course it sucked and he's a jerk, but it is a valuable item for an artist. It just looks like some of the larger areas are markered in and not brushed ink unless there was some serious fading going on. It looks a whole lot like marker on bristol to me, but then I'm not an inker. The comic publisher I worked for used these all the time for fill-ins. But you're probably right that Kirby did not.
                        Yeah Bryne inked with felt tip markers and it looked horrible....brush gives you thick and thin lines depending the amount of weight you put on the brush.
                        The fading is the india ink on original work you will see the brush strokes when the ink runs out on the brush and have to dip it back into the well. when the pages are scanned or photographed they are darkened. That's why smaller finer feathering inking is sometimes lost....
                        Higgins ink is light when erased it almost becomes grey,FW india ink is a deeper black and the brush strokes are minimal, Pro Black is the deepest black you can get but it can get thick and has to be diluted with a little water.....


                        Sharpies Formula is much better now and since there is no paste up on original art now, many younger artist use sharpies but i find them only good to use for comp work or prelim art. Pitt pens and Micron brand are used more by pros now.....
                        Last edited by kingdom warrior; Dec 21, '12, 9:13 PM.

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                        • Brazoo
                          Permanent Member
                          • Feb 14, 2009
                          • 4767

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Random Axe
                          I remember John Byrne admitting to drawing an entire issue of FF with one. Of course it sucked and he's a jerk, but it is a valuable item for an artist. It just looks like some of the larger areas are markered in and not brushed ink unless there was some serious fading going on. It looks a whole lot like marker on bristol to me, but then I'm not an inker. The comic publisher I worked for used these all the time for fill-ins. But you're probably right that Kirby did not.
                          As Kingdom Warrior said it's unlikely that markers were used. I think what you're seeing is the visible brush strokes in the larger portions of black. A lot of that is caused by the fact that those larger areas were worked on quicker than the detailed areas - so the ink isn't as dense in some parts, and then the ink is denser where brush stokes overlap. Also, remember brushes need to get washed out from time to time because the ink dries up in them and gums the brush up - so the density of ink changes if there is a bit of water left in the brush.

                          If you did a side by side comparison in real life with brushed india ink and markers I think you'd see a HUGE difference.

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                          • Brazoo
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 14, 2009
                            • 4767

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                            Yeah Bryne inked with felt tip markers and it looked horrible....brush gives you thick and thin lines depending the amount of weight you put on the brush.
                            The fading is the india ink on original work you will see the brush strokes when the ink runs out on the brush and have to dip it back into the well. when the pages are scanned or photographed they are darkened. That's why smaller finer feathering inking is sometimes lost....
                            Higgins ink is light when erased it almost becomes grey,FW india ink is a deeper black and the brush strokes are minimal, Pro Black is the deepest black you can get but it can get thick and has to be diluted with a little water.....


                            Sharpies Formula is much better now and since there is no paste up on original art now, many younger artist use sharpies but i find them only good to use for comp work or prelim art. Pitt pens and Micron brand are used more by pros now.....
                            Haha - what he said!!!

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                            • Figuremod73
                              That 80's guy
                              • Jul 27, 2011
                              • 3017

                              #15
                              This must be during Byrnes Fantastic Four run. I never liked his inks on anything until he did Namor in the early nineties.

                              Those Pitt brushes that are popular now are awesome....but expensive.

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