Rights revert to Marvel/Disney if Fox's next Daredevil film goes off the rails

[The Bat]

I hope DareDevil reverts back to Marvel. I don't think Fox will let FF go though, which sucks...because I don't have much hope they can make a good FF movie. But hey, they made a smart move getting Singer & Vaughn to do X-Men:First Class...so ya never know.

[madmarva]

If the rights to Daredevil did revert back to Marvel, I could get excited about a Daredevil vs. Punisher film, or like in the comics, initially they fight and then take down the Kingpin or Bullseye or both.

[Brazoo]

Also, FF gets a director
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.co...c-four-reboot/

Yucky.

[madmarva]

^Ed, I was thinking about the success of Iron-Man and failure of the GL film and I think it has to do with tone, or a least in part. I caught a bit of the Green Lantern film again the other day on cable, and where I believe it went wrong tonally where Iron Man went right was the fun factor.

Early in the film, the stakes were as high or higher for Stark as they ever were for Jordan in the GL film, but Iron Man and Stark had a fun, feel-good, let's party tone throughout, while Green Lantern had this mopey, I'm confused, I'm conflicted tone, that to me doesn't match the character, at least from the initial exploits of the character.

Batman is a somber, dark tale of a damaged guy seeking justice and, yes, revenge for a childhood tragedy, but every DC character doesn't have to be imbued with such darkness. It's gotten to be where DC super heroes can't be fun anymore. The tragic death of Hal's father was tacked on his origin in the late 80s or early 90s with Emerald Dawn, plus his drinking problem and recklessness. Now, DC has also made the Flash the product of the death of both parents. Do all super heroes have to be influenced by the deaths of their parents? Can't they just decide to use the gifts they've either developed or been blessed with or stumbled onto for the good of mankind just because it's the right thing to do?

I think this is where DC/Warners is missing the boat. Superman Returns wasn't fun. It was really dealing with serious and weighty matters of fathers and sons and orphans and adoptive parents in a dreary, sad manner. That would make a good story arc or even stand-alone graphic novel, but it's not fun enough for the first Superman movie in two decades. Similarly with the GL film, it struggled with being dark, trying to be fun and even flat out comedic at points. Overall the tone was misguided, confused or even rudderless.

Iron-Man had a clear direction, just like Avengers and Amazing Spider-Man (a good mixture of dark and fun that worked, but Spider-Man is just a better character than GL anyway), even Captain America (did not run away from its so-called "corniness") nor Thor. Marvel and the X-Men (3 out of 4 ain't bad) and Spidey producers do a better job of discerning what type of movie they should make and executing it than Warners, which seems to try to address a number of demographics with a script instead of producing a coherent and fun story.

[madmarva]

Brazoo, did you watch Chronicle, which Trank directed? I thought it was a pretty cool take on super powers.

I'm interested in what the guy might do with the FF. Like any unproduced film, there's a greater chance it will be a flop than it actually being good, but I like the choice of director.

[VintageMike]

I'll all for Marvel getting the rights back and it's not about crossovers. If you've ever seen the director's cut of Daredevil you see how Fox stripped down this movie. Based on that I believe they just don't know how to adequately create a Daredevil story and as has been referenced they wouldn't be sacrificing something that's a cash cow for them like X-Men or even has potential like FF. Plus with FF, there are numerous other characters involved in the license they would want to hold on to.

[samurainoir]

^^^^
that's a really good point Mike. The X-Men franchise does have hundreds of characters to exploit, but from the Fantastic Four comic you do ave a hundred issues worth of Kirby concepts debuting that belong to the FF license. If The Avengers film could not use the Skrulls because they debuted in FF, you not only have Doctor Doom, Silver Surfer and Galactus as previously used, but Black Panther, the watcher, Inhumans, the Kree as well as The Skrulls, Adam Warlock, the negative zone, Annihilous (which would make him off limits as the big bad in Guardians of the Gaaxy?)

[Type Two]

Dare Devil isn't a character that's going to generate Spider-Man-type money... .

LOL! That's what people said about Iron-Man, as well. And Thor. I hear all three of those movies did pretty well.

[Bruce Banner]

Decent FF and Daredevil movies are desperately needed.

Those two terrible Tim Story FF movies and that horrific DD aberration starring Affleck need to be expunged from the memory forever.