All Star: BATMAN & ROBIN#5...Ugh!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Miller can still write, just not for DC. Since he took on DK2 and this series for DC, I get the feeling he's turing out total crap on purpose and laughing his *** off all the way to the bank.

My thoughts exactly. It's either that or Miller thinks he's too cool and hip now to stoop to treating these characters with any amount of respect. What really burns me is the All-Star line was originally supposed to be an entry level book for young readers. Clearly this is the LAST Batman book you should hand a young child. I'd give them DKR first.

Compare this to the classy yet innovative All-Star Superman and you can really see it for the turd it is. No amount of pretty art can make me buy this dreck. Bill Finger and Bob Kane should come haunt Miller at night for this.

Chris

[Comic Book Geek]

This book is laughably bad, and I'm not by any means a Jim Lee guy either. When a new issue comes out the owner of my local comic shop and I go through it and make fun of it. It's horrible. the Black Canary issue was the worst comic Miller had ever done... and then #5 came out and buried it.

I for one thinks Miller HAS lost it.

[jemboy2004]

I find it hard to believe a writer would do bad writing on purpose. I think he never had it so he doesn't have much to lose IMO.

I'm not a fan of his work then or now so I guess I can't really be the one to compare this series to his older stuff.

[The Bat]

When I first heard of this Book...I thought GREAT...Lee & Miller...could it get better than that!??? I figured Miller would just pick up, where "Year One left off...maybe a couple's Year's later...when Robin comes in...PERFECT! Boy...I couldn't have been more WRONG! Miller had a great opportunity to re-tell some Classic Batman & Robin Storie's(or new Storie's)...like John Byrne did with X-Men:The Hidden Years! But He's TOTALLY BLOWN IT! I just wish DC would wise up...and Boot Him off the Book! Nah...it's too late...the damage is done...They need just to cancel it.

[thunderbolt]

It won't get cancelled till you batfan boys wuit buying it.

[The Bat]

It won't get cancelled till you batfan boys quit buying it.

I want to...but look at this Splash Page!

[The Toyroom]

Still won't get me to buy the book again, no matter how good the "pin-up" art looks.

[Sandlantern]

Sorry. Never been a fan of Jim Lee's art, and Miller ought to be ashamed of himself for this utter dreck.

I'll pass...this is even worse than the so-called "Ultimates" books.

[brineb]

Funny I was a Miller fan, but he's really just putting out crap these days, so sad. I was never a Lee fan, but the best part of the book is the artwork.

It saddens me to think of what Miller will do to the Spirit ... I hope it's not a crappy Sin City (which was pretty stinky)!!!

[Sandlantern]

Books like AS(s) Batman seem to me to be solely pandering to the lowest common denominator...or maybe I've gotten too "mature" for so-called "mature".(And is that EVER MORE a misused term for arrested development comics like this?)

[ctc]

>Funny I was a Miller fan, but he's really just putting out crap these days, so sad.

I was never really impressed with Miller's stuff. Even books like "The Dark Knight Returns" seemed sorta... juvenile to me. I can't help but feel that the real problem with stuff like his new books is that Miller's now legendary and NOBODY would think to say no to the guy. We're now getting the sort of book he'd always wanted to make; but couldn't 'cos he had an editor breathing down his neck.

Don C.

[palitoy]

I've never seen the allure of Miller either, Batman Year one I liked but the rest of it seemed so over the top with cringe inducing dialogue that I kind of avoid his work.

Although, I also think that a lot of people ripped his style (making it even worse) so I might just have a low tolerence for such things.

[thunderbolt]

I want to...but look at this Splash Page!

Said it before, and I'll say it again. I really wish Jim Lee would grow a bit stylistically. His stuff looks like it was frozen in 1992. Lee is really just punching the clock on his stuff and not taking any sort of chance with his art.

[The Toyroom]

Lee doesn't need to be innovative because he'll collect a paycheck from DC no matter what he turns out, he's still got that VP title doesn't he because of the Wildstorm sale? So he doesn't need to push the envelope or crank it up a notch...the guy's got no "spark" anymore. Sigh....

[Comic Book Geek]

I can't believe I'm about to defend Jim Lee... I've never been a huge fan, but some of my favoririte comic art is unconventional. I like Miller's artwork on DKR and Alex Maleve's run on Daredevil. i don't drool over Jim Lee's work, but I can in no way say that he's just punching the clock and collecting a paycheck.

Lee's work (and I stress the word work) is painstakingly exicuted. I can't find fault in his ability or effort. It's not as if his work has suffured over time. If anything you have to say he's been one of the most consistant artists in the last umpteen years. I can't even pin the "dated" badge on him too harshly. If I have a criticism it's that his work lacks soul and emotion, but his ability is to be commended.