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  • emeraldknight47
    Talkative Member
    • Jun 20, 2011
    • 5212

    #16
    And I think I remember reading an article about a bunch of extraterrestials who were protesting over being shown as "too soft" in "ET."
    sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.

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    • Random Axe
      The Voice of Reason
      • Apr 16, 2008
      • 4518

      #17
      Originally posted by emeraldknight47
      And I think I remember reading an article about a bunch of extraterrestials who were protesting over being shown as "too soft" in "ET."
      The problem they had was with film accuracy. It's not their fingers that light up...
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      • emeraldknight47
        Talkative Member
        • Jun 20, 2011
        • 5212

        #18
        Originally posted by Random Axe
        The problem they had was with film accuracy. It's not their fingers that light up...
        ::rimshot::

        Keep it clean, Scotty lad, remember, this is a FAMILY program!!!
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        • enyawd72
          Maker of Monsters!
          • Oct 1, 2009
          • 7904

          #19
          Wait til they see Avengers 2 starring Ashton Kutcher as Tony Stark.

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          • emeraldknight47
            Talkative Member
            • Jun 20, 2011
            • 5212

            #20
            Originally posted by enyawd72
            Wait til they see Avengers 2 starring Ashton Kutcher as Tony Stark.

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            • toys2cool
              Ultimate Mego Warrior
              • Nov 27, 2006
              • 28605

              #21
              please that scene lasted all of what 3 minutes? if that
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              • toys2cool
                Ultimate Mego Warrior
                • Nov 27, 2006
                • 28605

                #22
                Originally posted by enyawd72
                Wait til they see Avengers 2 starring Ashton Kutcher as Tony Stark.

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                yikes!!!!!!
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                • Gorn Captain
                  Invincible Ironing Man
                  • Feb 28, 2008
                  • 10549

                  #23
                  In Independence Day, the first army to get wiped out by the aliens is the Belgian army. I was outraged!
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                  "When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."

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                  • jwyblejr
                    galactic yo-yo
                    • Apr 6, 2006
                    • 11147

                    #24
                    ^At least you guys had Indiana Jones fighting for you during WWI.

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                    • garagesale
                      Dept. of Mego Studies
                      • Aug 8, 2006
                      • 1142

                      #25
                      Personally, I was offended by how The Avengers showed only the urban side of America. All those cityscapes getting destroyed, as if the barns and alfalfa fields of the heartland are not "cool" enough for aliens and superheroes to fight in.

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                      • Gorn Captain
                        Invincible Ironing Man
                        • Feb 28, 2008
                        • 10549

                        #26
                        I think that no nationality likes to be portrayed stereotypically. Poverty is a huge problem in India, and they use their movie industry as an escape from reality. I'm sure that they would love to see a heroic Indian superhero, to boost their morale, and not another wretched soul begging for food.
                        It's like being a Star Trek fan: they are usually portrayed as obese, socially awkward, wearing a stupid Spock T-shirt, and never having been near a (non-inflatable) woman. Some may actually be like that, but I'm sure you'd prefer not looking like that in a movie scene...
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                        "When things are at their darkest, it's a brave man that can kick back and party."

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                        • samurainoir
                          Eloquent Member
                          • Dec 26, 2006
                          • 18758

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Gorn Captain
                          I think that no nationality likes to be portrayed stereotypically. Poverty is a huge problem in India, and they use their movie industry as an escape from reality. I'm sure that they would love to see a heroic Indian superhero, to boost their morale, and not another wretched soul begging for food.
                          That is exactly it. You are totally right given their most expensive/lavish production ever that was released last year was Ra One (because Iron Man did not have enough dance numbers). I'm living in a country who's indigenous homegrown film industry has been swallowed by the hollywood machine the past couple of decades, so I can understand Bollywood wanting to try and push their own product and cultural diversity.


                          And I think the main issue of the article is being missed here. Keeping in mind India's history, you might understand why they could possibly feel this way.
                          Some Bollywood actors and other Indians claim the Marvel release parrots the tired trope of a Westerner coming and saving beleaguered Easterners.
                          Last edited by samurainoir; May 10, '12, 10:36 AM.
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                          • samurainoir
                            Eloquent Member
                            • Dec 26, 2006
                            • 18758

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Gorn Captain
                            In Independence Day, the first army to get wiped out by the aliens is the Belgian army. I was outraged!
                            Dude!


                            Last edited by samurainoir; May 10, '12, 10:40 AM.
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                            • johnmiic
                              Adrift
                              • Sep 6, 2002
                              • 8427

                              #29
                              This reminds me of when gov't. in Iran complained about the film 300, (so embarassing that the Greeks slaughtered so many of you even tho you won in the end, eh?). I find the criticism in the article to be pretty weak, that the filmmaker was ignorant, was disrespectful and it, "could have been done in better taste." So how do you tastefully depict a slum? India is known for having about 1,000 leper colonies, (source-Wikipedia, Wikimedia Error). It sounds like you can't throw a rock without hitting one.

                              Banner is hiding out and helping out. He's on the lam and just doing his part to get by. He doesn't do it with any fanfare or plant an American flag or push western ideas on anyone. He is also serving a form of penance here. He knows what the HULK is capable of and is doing good deeds to offset that. It's all pretty low key and it's serves the story well.

                              More likely the real reason is closer to what Gorn Captain said. Altho the fact that these scenes were filmed in New Mexico and not in India, (probably to save on budget), might be salt in the wound too. The studio and the director have nothing to apologize for here. The film has proven very popular in India and these are a few loud and vocal naysayers.

                              The best way to fix this would be to change the title, which nails down the location: India, to a different country and dub a different foreign language over the little girl when she speaks for the DVD release. Don't like your portrayal in the film? We can remove you from it completely. Problem solved.

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                              • samurainoir
                                Eloquent Member
                                • Dec 26, 2006
                                • 18758

                                #30
                                Careful John! That's starting to look like an essay.

                                Again, much less to do with the specific film of the moment, although Avengers grabs the headlines obviously. And more to do with the trend of how Hollywood has typically depicted India overall historically.

                                I don't necessarily agree with the complaint leveled specifically at Avengers (I obviously love the film), but I do like to try and understand where they are coming from. A country that has freed itself from Western imperialism within the past century would have certain feelings about seeing movies starring Patrick Swayze as the answer to India's problems.

                                Take into account an indie film like Slumdog millionaire (which never would have been greenlit by the Hollywood players), being such a huge global critical and commercial hit a few years ago, showing the diversity of India (good and bad) and starring South East Asians, this might seem a bit of a throwback.

                                But you are correct it could be set anywhere that has slums, and within the context of the movie it is very insignificant. But it does grab the headlines right? It does contain the message that India has it's own homegrown film Industry, and remember that this article in the Huffington Post Is based on one that appeared in the Hindi newspaper aimed for that particular readership.

                                The Hindustan Times also reported rumors that an "Avengers" sequel may be filmed in India, citing a source from the film's team who said director Joss Whedon wanted to "grab more eyeballs." The superhero film was very well-received in India, racking up 15 crore over its opening weekend (and beating out all other films).
                                With the global marketplace being the only way for films with huge budgets like this to ever recoup their costs, film makers probably do have reason to listen to potential consumer bases of billions and a developing economy that will no doubt be a very powerful consumer force as the 21st Century continues. Personally, I think Captain America was the very best film coming out of the recent Marvel slate of films, but there is a reason why it has the lowest of the box office tallys worldwide, and it had to a retitled "First Avenger" for some markets.

                                There is a reason that Iron Man 3 is very likely going to be a co-production with China.
                                Last edited by samurainoir; May 10, '12, 1:30 PM.
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