Has Batman gotten too dark?

[palitoy]

As long as we don't go back to Schumacher-ville.

It seems like people think these are the only two options, really dark or biff! Bang! Sploing! with nipple suits.

Batman doesn't need to be Adam West to be lighter in tone, he doesn't have to be any less a badass either. I don't remember anyone saying Iron Man, Thor or Captain America were campy movies.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Right. Batman can be a bad arse in a straight-up actioner ala the Marvel films.

It will be interesting to see how Avengers performs vs. DKR. If DKR comes out on top, expect WB to assign the franchise to a Nolan-like-minded individual. If Avenger leads, WB will try to copy Marvel's formula.

Either way, I think Nolan is still due to produce the Batman films even after DKR, so his influence may still be felt in some way. I don't think you'll ever get Adam West or Schumacher with him involved in any way.

[samurainoir]

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[madmarva]

I like Nolan's Batman films, but my favorite version of Batman is more like the 70s and early 80s version of the character or like the Batman Animated version. I think a version like that executed as well as Nolan has his films would do gangbuster business. Sure it could have all the battrappings, but it wouldn't have to take it as far as the 60s show or the final three 90s Batman films.

I thought the first IronMan movie had just the right tone. It was cool, but not so harsh.

As Palitoy mentioned the Green Lantern film was so all over the place. Some of it was too silly to me, while other parts made me wonder who the audience was for the film.

I really hope Snyder gets the Superman movie right, but I hate that everyone says it's darker. Yes, the villains or evil needs to be a threat, but the tone of a supeman movie shouldn't be dark. To me it should be inspiring and hopeful.

[Hector]

RIGHT ON Hector!! Once again we see eye to eye.

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[Zemo]

I love Batman dark...that makes him stand out

Absolutely. The Dark Knights Billion dollar worldwide gross speaks for itself.

[kingdom warrior]

I like Batman dark, I still feel they haven't done a really really hard core Pulp noir Detective Batman movie.

That's why, I'd like to see something different after the Nolan movies. I said it in another post. a Trilogy of Elseworlds movie where we see different versions of Batman,would be far better IMO than have another guy in that damn rubber suit for three more movies....

[samurainoir]

I stand alone in wanting a live action Brave and Bold, with the voice actors playing their animated counterparts. Particularly ambush bug and batmite.

[huedell]

To me... Batman being dark is key to the DCU... Supes is well-adjusted
and light.... a glass is half full type... and Batman is the opposite...
regardless of if they ever show up in the same film together, it makes
the DCU rich, I feel.

However, I think Batman's dark side needs to contrast SOMEone
in his own films... yes, the successful box office speaks for a lot re: Nolan's
films... but that's not how I'd do it.... I'd put more eccentric fun
(even wickedly fun) characters in the films... Ledger's Joker
is actually more along the lines of what I'd populate the movies with.

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

Y'know, I didn't find the last couple films all that dark. They kinda LOOK darker.... Harvey's head was pretty realistic and gruesome.... but conceptually they weren't really any darker than any other take. There were episodes of the 90's cartoon that had ideas and stories just as bad.... maybe worse, if you correct for bright colours.

Don C.

[Godzilla]

I think the recent Batman movies and Brave and the Bold TV show have shown that you can have different interpretations of the same character existing at the same time and no one will care. I like them both, for different reasons.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Well put.

Chris

[sprytel]

I think the recent Batman movies and Brave and the Bold TV show have shown that you can have different interpretations of the same character existing at the same time and no one will care. I like them both, for different reasons.

I agree with you.

But now that all the comic companies are part of these giant media conglomerates, the trend is towards more "vertical integration". They seem to think the Batman you see on the movie screen should look and act like the Batman in your comic book, your toy chest, your animated TV show, etc. etc. I guess they think we will get confused.

[Gorn Captain]

Even though I like the new films, I wouldn't have chosen Bane as the next (and perhaps last Nolan) bad guy. I think Batman needs a little dose of fantasy, and Bane is too "real world", him being a drug addict.
I already thought they made the Joker "real world" enough, and to be honest, I wasn't over the moon about Ledger's take on it.

They push back the fantasy element more and more, and that just takes you out of that special environment. It's as if Darth Vader is fighting Luke, and he pauses a moment to get his asthma inhaler. True, it might be realistic, but it doesn't fit into that particular world.

The new movie doesn't really have that much appeal to me...

[Hector]

I wanna see Dark Knight Rises more than The Avengers...but that's just me.