Ok, my take on Captain America: The First Avenger...

[Hector]

*****MINOR SPOILERS*****


Just came back today from watching Captain America: The First Avenger.

The verdict?

I really liked it...almost loved it...almost...but liked it a lot.

Now...please don't hurt me...I'm quite benevolent...so take it easy on me, Cap fans...lol.

Better than Green Lantern? Duh....of course...no brainer...lol.

Better than Thor? Yes, by a nose.

Better than X-Men:First Class? I'd say a draw. First Class is a more thoughtful film...not in authenticity of course...meaning...comic book wise...Captain America wins hands down in that category...but I thought First Class was a film with a tad more substance. But in terms of pure adventure and old school fun...Captain America wins.

Captain America is a great comic book adventure faithful to the comic book...a patriotic feel good movie with lots of old school serial-type action...and of course...coming from the same director of The Rocketeer...Joe Johnston...the exact same type of film.

It worked as a stand alone WWII flick as well.

Chris Evans...an actor I always hated...FINALLY comes through in his best role EVER. I was expecting the same 'ol wisecracking obnoxious jerk a la Ryan Reynolds...but that persona was nowhere to be seen here...he played Steve Rogers with earnest enthusiasm...no wisecracking jokes...he was noble, brave, honest, patriotic, and came across as a true hero.

I loved the progression of his costumes...from his vaudeville one (which ironically, was the most authentic looking of them all, but was seen as the "humorous" costume)...to the soldier one with the triangular-badge-shaped shield...to the great-looking battle-badazz costume and famous round shield.

The entire supporting cast were great...especially the "dame"...and Bucky (a great hero as well).

Now on to the Red Skull...

To me...he was the weakest part of Captain America. Sure...he looked great...but I never got the feel that he was truly evil..as a matter of fact...he failed miserably compared to the real monster of WWII...Hitler. Just compared the death count between Red Skull and Hitler...not even close...Hitler wins by a landslide...lol.

Also...Red Skull came across as very inept...he never stood a chance...I actually felt sorry for the guy...lol.

I also didn't like Captain America using a gun...and he did kill a few baddies...an act quite not as benevolent as other superheroes...but I guess that was early in his career...and it was during WWII...so he gets a pass...lol.

BTW...for all you CGI haters...Chris Evans as the skinny little Rogers...would have NEVER been possible without that technology...that's where CGI truly shines...I for one...thank Zeus, Odin, and Jesus for CGI...CGI is not your enemy...CGI is your friend...lol.

I have a question though...how and why did the Allies outgunned HYDRA soldiers and their rayguns so easily? I quite didn't buy that...last time I checked...superior weaponry beats inferior weaponry...lol.

Overall...a really good flick...right up there with First Class, Iron Man, and Spidey...but not quite up there with Superman 1 & 2 and Nolan's Batman films.

Just my opinion, guys and gals...just my opinion...I'm not here to judge anybody's take on it...just my opinion...

[toys2cool]

Saw it today as well and I loved it, man the way he threw his shield was awesome

I agree about the CGI, to make that beast look like that little wimpy guy was brilliant...

I loved that the romance wasn't overly done, like in most hero films where he has to save her *** every 2 minutes...This chick was hot and could kick *** herself

[Hector]

Saw it today as well and I loved it, man the way he threw his shield was awesome

I agree about the CGI, to make that beast look like that little wimpy guy was brilliant...

I loved that the romance wasn't overly done, like in most hero films where he has to save her *** every 2 minutes...This chick was hot and could kick *** herself

[StrangeVisitor]

I have a question though...how and why did the Allies outgunned HYDRA soldiers and their rayguns so easily? I quite didn't buy that...last time I checked...superior weaponry beats inferior weaponry...lol.

Those Cosmic Cube powered rayguns that Hydra used where only shown one "ZAP" of light at a time whereas the Allies' machine guns cranked out 10 or more rounds per second (probably not accurate but you get the idea). It's quantity beats quality thing I think.

[Hector]

Ok...fair enough...

[LadyZod]

Sounds like a good film.

I'll watch it on DVD, like it's meant to be.

[MIB41]

Now on to the Red Skull...

To me...he was the weakest part of Captain America. Sure...he looked great...but I never got the feel that he was truly evil..as a matter of fact...he failed miserably compared to the real monster of WWII...Hitler. Just compared the death count between Red Skull and Hitler...not even close...Hitler wins by a landslide...lol.

Also...Red Skull came across as very inept...he never stood a chance...I actually felt sorry for the guy...lol.

My thoughts exactly. The Red Skull LOOKED great. But his 'villainy' was more cartoony in nature. He never was a direct threat to Cap'. And when Bucky allegedly perished, that was more an accident after a scuffle with Hydra soldiers than having anything to do with the Red Skull directly. So when Cap finally met him I thought a good line might have been, "Didn't I already kick your arse ten times?" There was just no tension there. And then when he cratered the Red Skull's ship into the ice, that was AFTER the Red Skull had already got zapped out of time. So his choice to 'go down with the ship' in the middle of nowhere seemed a little pointless since he could have gotten off with his speed and healing factor in tow. I would have at least tried so I could have made that first date! But, in the end, the portrayal of Cap' was great. And based on that, it was a great film. It just could have been epic, had they flushed out a grudged between Rogers and the Skull that would have made it personal.

[The Bat]

[B]
I have a question though...how and why did the Allies outgunned HYDRA soldiers and their rayguns so easily? I quite didn't buy that...last time I checked...superior weaponry beats inferior weaponry...lol.

My take on that...A better shot beats a better weapon any day. After all, they were going up against The HOWLIN' COMMANDOS and CAPTAIN-Freakiin-AMERICA!

As for Cap using a Gun(and once a knife)...like you said, it was WAR. I know you won't see Cap kill in the Avengers.

[ctc]

>Chris Evans as the skinny little Rogers...would have NEVER been possible without that technology

Not true; all you need is a few days and 20lbs of Ex-Lax. (Lon Chaney would have done it....)

>how and why did the Allies outgunned HYDRA soldiers and their rayguns so easily?

Chutzpah?

Don C.

[boynightwing]

I think you have a good assessment of the movie. I agree with everything you said Hector.

I loved Captain America. I think I loved First Class just a smidge more. Both are winner films in my book. I'm looking forward to seeing it again. I'm really excited for the Avengers now too. Which is funny because I've never actually liked the Avengers. I think it will be a great movie though.

[Hector]

My thoughts exactly. The Red Skull LOOKED great. But his 'villainy' was more cartoony in nature. He never was a direct threat to Cap'. And when Bucky allegedly perished, that was more an accident after a scuffle with Hydra soldiers than having anything to do with the Red Skull directly. So when Cap finally met him I thought a good line might have been, "Didn't I already kick your arse ten times?" There was just no tension there. And then when he cratered the Red Skull's ship into the ice, that was AFTER the Red Skull had already got zapped out of time. So his choice to 'go down with the ship' in the middle of nowhere seemed a little pointless since he could have gotten off with his speed and healing factor in tow. I would have at least tried so I could have made that first date! But, in the end, the portrayal of Cap' was great. And based on that, it was a great film. It just could have been epic, had they flushed out a grudged between Rogers and the Skull that would have made it personal.

Wow...you said it better than I...

[Hector]

My take on that...A better shot beats a better weapon any day. After all, they were going up against The HOWLIN' COMMANDOS and CAPTAIN-Freakiin-AMERICA!

As for Cap using a Gun(and once a knife)...like you said, it was WAR. I know you want see Cap kill in the Avengers.

[Hector]

I think you have a good assessment of the movie. I agree with everything you said Hector.

I loved Captain America. I think I loved First Class just a smidge more. Both are winner films in my book. I'm looking forward to seeing it again. I'm really excited for the Avengers now too. Which is funny because I've never actually liked the Avengers. I think it will be a great movie though.

Agreed...

[Hector]

>Chris Evans as the skinny little Rogers...would have NEVER been possible without that technology

Not true; all you need is a few days and 20lbs of Ex-Lax. (Lon Chaney would have done it....).

Ahhhhhhhh...no.

Perhaps in an alternate Earth...but not this Earth.

[Hector]

My thoughts exactly. The Red Skull LOOKED great. But his 'villainy' was more cartoony in nature. He never was a direct threat to Cap'. And when Bucky allegedly perished, that was more an accident after a scuffle with Hydra soldiers than having anything to do with the Red Skull directly. So when Cap finally met him I thought a good line might have been, "Didn't I already kick your arse ten times?" There was just no tension there. And then when he cratered the Red Skull's ship into the ice, that was AFTER the Red Skull had already got zapped out of time. So his choice to 'go down with the ship' in the middle of nowhere seemed a little pointless since he could have gotten off with his speed and healing factor in tow. I would have at least tried so I could have made that first date! But, in the end, the portrayal of Cap' was great. And based on that, it was a great film. It just could have been epic, had they flushed out a grudged between Rogers and the Skull that would have made it personal.

I just read your take on Captain America on the other thread...good stuff...