How do you really feel about Sam Raimai Spiderman Trilogy?

[Meule]

First was good, second was OK and I haven't even bothered watching the third yet because of all the bad reviews. Eventually I'll watch it, but I don't have high hopes

[thunderbolt]

I dunno, I really don't see anything that was forced on Dark Knight by some unknowing studio nitwit.

[Brazoo]

Wish he'd stopped at two, or was allowed to do what he wanted to without "suits" interfering. Nolan was left alone by Warner/DC and looks what he did.

There is a bit of a fallacy in movies - that whenever a film is good it's because of the director - and when it's bad it's because he was interfered with by "suits". Of course that sometimes happens for sure - but I would bet that Nolan was not totally left alone by DC and Warner Bros.

I'd also bet that some of the things that didn't work in the Spider-Man movies were Raimi's fault.

[thunderbolt]

Wish he'd stopped at two, or was allowed to do what he wanted to without "suits" interfering. Nolan was left alone by Warner/DC and looks what he did.

[clemso]

1. was amazing, except for Goblin suits, it definitely had a wow factor.
2. Spectacular from start to finish. Dr Ock was perfect.
3. What can i say, loved the Sand Man but all kind of flaws. Way too much plot, sub plot. Venom/new Goblin ruined it for me

[torgospizza]

...Dancing Peter Parker...

Couldn't agree more. When he transformed into the "cool bad boy," it was like someone that hadn't even met anyone cool had taken over the script. I'll just come out and say it: I was embarrassed for an imaginary character.

[The Toyroom]

The good:
Spider-Man, Aunt May, J. Jonah Jameson (whoever is the new JJJ is gonna have big shoes to fill)

The ok:
Doc Ock, Norman Osborn, Sandman, Gwen Stacy

The bad:
The Green Goblin, Venom, Mary Jane Watson, Dancing Peter Parker, The "New Goblin"

[kennermike]

Are the new movies even with Sony still? I haven't really been following.

yes and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin are producing the new one

[Brazoo]

Are the new movies even with Sony still? I haven't really been following.

[Batman]

All of them had their good parts and bad but the only thing that really ticked me off about part 3 is that Venom was too easily defeated and he was too small..And yes Mary Jane was not really Mary Jane

And yes the organic shooters were lame It's good to see that their making mechanical shooters in the re-boot.

[Brazoo]

Part 1 surprised me in a good way, the movie hit on a lot of elements that I thought it was going to do badly - but the action scenes stunk.

Part 2 - has much better action scenes, and I really enjoyed it.

Part 3 - Muddy plot - misguided attempts at humor - too many coincidences. Certainly the additional characters didn't help. Basically just kind of painful from start to finish for me.


About Raimi:
I think with a licensed project like Spider-Man, and certainly projects on that scale - you're not really talking about a director who's totally creatively free. There seems to be a lot of other 'cooks' in the mix.

Certainly executives at Sony and Marvel want to ensure that the movie hits upon certain things that will allow them to capitalize on both their investment and the property itself.

For example - adding characters allows Marvel to market and merchandise more of their intellectual properties - which is why I think there always seems to be pressure to use more and more characters in these movies as these franchises continue.

My guess is that there wasn't one single reason Sony rebooted the franchise. If part 3 was a phenomenon and everyone loved it, it might have improved it's chances of continuing. I'm sure one factor is that everyone involved had 3 movie contracts - and resigning probably makes things incredibly expensive - because everyone probably want's a raise. Rebooting gets everyone with fresh contracts. I'm not sure how much Marvel/Disney deal had to do with it either. At the end of the day I'm sure the producers and execs feel that Spider-Man is the star of any Spider-Man franchise - not anyone involved in the production - so why pay through the nose?

[kennermike]

I only seen the first one but I thought it was pretty good --- and that's high praise coming from me

Wow that is high Praise Im floored !!!!

[Mikey]

I only seen the first one but I thought it was pretty good --- and that's high praise coming from me

[kennermike]

I loved the first 2! but I think the Third one was overkill did not care for the Venom character too many villians.Thats why I believe Sony shot down his proposed 4th installment with John Malcovich as the Vulture among probably other reasons I also read that they werent to happy with Sams villian choice for the 4th one,and Went with a Reboot.I love Sam and Im just holding a reserved judgment on Andrew Garfield as Spidey