Thor trailer debuts...

[Thor]

This waiting is starting to get to me.

[chalwa]

I didn't like Thor as a child but he eventually grew on me. Not all of his writers really knew how to handle him. I actually have liked some of the stories in recent years. He's come a long way from Marvel's early days.
Kirby had originally wanted to send the gods into final battle (Ragnarok) waaayy earlier than it was finally done (and done again). He had planned to replace the characters with younger gods and move Asgard forward from there with new characters. By then, however he had become frustrated with Marvel not crediting his plotting so he kept his ideas under wraps. He then accepted an offer from DC in hopes of having more creative control. Those characters that he had planned to introduce after Ragnarok at Marvel became DC's 'The New Gods'.
Kirby's epic concepts (by that I mean the stories he wanted to tell on a grand scale with beginnings and endings) at DC and Marvel are being reused and rehashed in much of their live action and animated offerings (like Silver Surfer,Galactus, Darkseid, etc). I always have mixed feelings whenever something he had a lot of influence in makes to mass consumption.
I remember reading a story about how he and a friend were killing some time before or after a convention during the mego era and Kirby refused to go into a TRU because he said it hurt him to see the toys and figures of concepts he helped create for which he got no royalties.
Sorry.
I digress.

[clemso]

I didn't like Thor as a child but he eventually grew on me. Not all of his writers really knew how to handle him. I actually have liked some of the stories in recent years. He's come a long way from Marvel's early days.
Kirby had originally wanted to send the gods into final battle (Ragnarok) waaayy earlier than it was finally done (and done again). He had planned to replace the characters with younger gods and move Asgard forward from there with new characters. By then, however he had become frustrated with Marvel not crediting his plotting so he kept his ideas under wraps. He then accepted an offer from DC in hopes of having more creative control. Those characters that he had planned to introduce after Ragnarok at Marvel became DC's 'The New Gods'.
Kirby's epic concepts (by that I mean the stories he wanted to tell on a grand scale with beginnings and endings) at DC and Marvel are being reused and rehashed in much of their live action and animated offerings (like Silver Surfer,Galactus, Darkseid, etc). I always have mixed feelings whenever something he had a lot of influence in makes to mass consumption.
I remember reading a story about how he and a friend were killing some time before or after a convention during the mego era and Kirby refused to go into a TRU because he said it hurt him to see the toys and figures of concepts he helped create for which he got no royalties.
Sorry.
I digress.

I hear what your saying. There will always be two sides to the Kirby debate. But for me, it is better to celebrate and remember what he achieved by supporting such products that he had a hand in creating than to drag his name through the mud over the royalty issues. Jack was paid to do a job in the early days of Marvel which put food on his families table and signed a work for hire contract to that effect. How many times in life have we all wished that we had a crystal ball. Long live the King!