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  • BlackKnight
    The DarkSide Customizer
    • Apr 16, 2005
    • 14622

    Green Arrow Talk ( Spoilers )

    Yeah So ...
    I just read Green Arrow #32 Lastnight ...
    1st of all, up till this Book, the Direction of the Book was Fantastic to Me.
    This Particular Book Blew Arse IMO.
    So ,.. Ollie Ends Up turning Himself in ..., And they end Up outting Him. So the Whole World Now Knows that Oliver Queen is Green Arrow.
    He beats the Charge of Murder, because the Jury would not Vote Guilty ...,
    But the Judge was kinda Upset I guess, because it was the incorrect call, but he too didn't want to conviced him ..., so He Banished him from Star City forever. Which Queen was also the Mayor of .
    Dinah Left His Arse too.


    I think this Whole new Direction is somewhat Stupid.
    Did writers learn Nothing after the Spider-Man and Civil War Arc ..., where they had to go back and "fix" everything to where no One Knew Peter was Spidey anymore ? ...

    I dunno, I just felt as if I got ripped Off.
    Looks like No form of Arrow on JLA for a bit.
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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    #2
    Now that Grell is done with Warlord, does anyone else want him to return to Green Arrow?

    Or has Grell and Ollie passed their time? Do you think Grell said everything he had to say about Ollie in that last run following Longbow Hunters?

    For me, I don't think anyone has topped that run when it comes to GA.

    Whatever happened to Shado and his other son with her anyways?

    I wouldn't mind Conner Hawke in the JLA.
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    • The Toyroom
      The Packaging King
      • Dec 31, 2004
      • 16653

      #3
      Guess we'll need another Blackest Night eventually for Geoff Johns to resurrect a hero, in this case Green Arrow, that others have f'ed up.....
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      • BlackKnight
        The DarkSide Customizer
        • Apr 16, 2005
        • 14622

        #4
        Originally posted by samurainoir
        Whatever happened to Shado and his other son with her ?
        They actually mention that in the book ...
        I guess , That's an added Notch as to why Dinah left Ollie ..., is because the Dude doesn't give a crap about anything but Himself,... Thus he doesn't give a Crap.


        I think Ollie's gonna go the Nomad route Obviously for a While ..., going from city to city, perhaps Country to Country, maybe trying to figure out Who He is ..., it is Possible that Mia Might be going with him too ..., and or she's gonna wind up on a Super Hero Team. Conner seems to be going some sorta NightWing-esque route ..., and is looking to distance himself from the world of the Emerald Archer ..., Last I saw Roy ..., he was fighting the Urge for Some Smack ..., so He's all F'ed up right now, and seems to be completely outta the Loop ..., but I see him possibly becomming some sorta DC Version of the Punisher , when all is said and Done.
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        • BlackKnight
          The DarkSide Customizer
          • Apr 16, 2005
          • 14622

          #5
          BTW ..., I just wanted to add, that I hate how Barry Allen is written in this Book ..., and in ways, it really makes me dislike the character. Ollie Kill's a Man , that Killed his GrandDaughter, Destroy's an entire city, and Ultimately Killing Hundreds of Thousands in the Process. And Barry Is Hell bent on Convicting and Putting his Fellow Team Mate On Trial. Thus, sharing Ollies secret Identity with the World.

          I don't like it ..., at all. And to me, it makes Barry Seem Like a Jerk Off, Everything in is little "perfect world" is safe , he has no idea what it's like or what he would do if someone took it all away in a matter of Minutes. If someone did this Crap to Me ..., I do whatever it took, if I could pull it off, to get revenge of the fallen and my Loved ones, and myself.

          I just don't care for Barry Much after this .
          Last edited by BlackKnight; Apr 26, '10, 1:59 PM.
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          • samurainoir
            Eloquent Member
            • Dec 26, 2006
            • 18758

            #6
            Originally posted by BlackKnight
            BTW ..., I just wanted to add, that I hate how Barry Allen is written in this Book ..., and in ways, it really makes me dislike the character. Ollie Kill's a Man , that Killed his GrandDaughter, Destroy's an entire city, and Ultimately Killing Hundreds of Thousands in the Process. And Barry Is Hell bent on Convicting and Putting his Fellow Team Mate On Trial. Thus, sharing Ollies secret Identity with the World.

            I don't like it ..., at all. And to me, it makes Barry Seem Like a Jerk Off, Everything in is little "perfect world" is safe , he has no idea what it's like or what he would do if someone took it all away in a matter of Minutes. If someone did this Crap to Me ..., I do whatever it took, if I could pull it off, to get revenge of the fallen and my Loved ones, and myself.

            I just don't care for Barry Much after this .
            Inevitably, I feel like Barry and Wally will be butting heads over something like this. In some ways it's interesting the new back story Geoff Johns has given him because it might explain why Barry has always had such a black and white approach to things. Although keep in mind that Barry also went through his own Criminal Trial after he killed Professor Zoom, so it might be understandable how he feels about the law and justice.

            At the end of the day, Wally arguably has been a much more "successful" hero because of the fact that he's befriended and rehabilitated so many of his former foes rather than playing the merry-go-round justice route with them.

            Chunk, Speed Mcgee, The Piper, and others were all treated with a lot more compassion and empathy from Wally, and I'm sure he would have handled the Ollie thing in a different fashion as well. But then again, look what a cad Wally's own dad has been.
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            • boynightwing
              That Carl Guy
              • Apr 24, 2002
              • 3382

              #7
              In regards to Green Arrow...I'm pretty sure he's killed before. I'm thinking from the Long Bow Hunters story and around that time where he lost the Robin Hood hat and had the cool hoodie. It's been a long time since I have read them so I can't say for certain. I do think he killed some folk though.

              Besides, the guy he killed recently deserved it. I'd be upset if Batman killed but I don't really think I care if Green Arrow does. He carries a bow and arrow. Those things are lethal. It's bound to happen sometime.

              As for Barry Allen, I wish they kept him dead. Or bring him back once in awhile. I'm firmly planted in the Wally West corner. He's earned his stripes long ago and he's a good character. Bringing Barry back feels like a giant leap backwards and I feel it ruins everything he sacrificed himself for during the only Crisis worth reading. (except Identity Crisis which was awesome).

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              • BlackKnight
                The DarkSide Customizer
                • Apr 16, 2005
                • 14622

                #8
                Originally posted by boynightwing
                In regards to Green Arrow...I'm pretty sure he's killed before. I'm thinking from the Long Bow Hunters story and around that time where he lost the Robin Hood hat and had the cool hoodie. It's been a long time since I have read them so I can't say for certain. I do think he killed some folk though.
                Arrow Killed a few People alone in the 70's with Brave & The Bold ..., I read the issues recently. With that being said , it even makes the outting of Green Arrow, even more so Stupid imo.

                As for Barry Allen, I wish they kept him dead. Or bring him back once in awhile. I'm firmly planted in the Wally West corner. He's earned his stripes long ago and he's a good character. Bringing Barry back feels like a giant leap backwards and I feel it ruins everything he sacrificed himself for during the only Crisis worth reading. (except Identity Crisis which was awesome).
                I agree with a couple of different points.
                Being someone who Only really read Comics outside of Batman and Detective at the start of 86 ... and comics ingeneral only for a very short time before..., I never even connected with Barry ..., only for a Ross story, or past story here or there.

                I gotta say ..., with what I've read so far, I really don't even like the character Much since his return either, ... I like Wally Better, and like how he is written.
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                • Nostalgiabuff
                  Muddling through
                  • Oct 4, 2008
                  • 11424

                  #9
                  I thought the end sucked too....so was that the last issue of this particular run?

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                  • BlackKnight
                    The DarkSide Customizer
                    • Apr 16, 2005
                    • 14622

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nostalgiabuff
                    so was that the last issue of this particular run?
                    I believe so ...
                    Last page of the book wrote " Green Arrow # 1 on Sale in June, or July " ...
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                    • thunderbolt
                      Hi Ernie!!!
                      • Feb 15, 2004
                      • 34211

                      #11
                      sounds like a quick wrap up to a really bad storyline. Looks like he gets a new Sherwood Forest to hang out with the new series.
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                      • The Toyroom
                        The Packaging King
                        • Dec 31, 2004
                        • 16653

                        #12
                        I'm a BIG Barry Allen fan...but it doesn't sound like the Barry Allen I'm familiar with...He's been gone for sooo long I really don't think the writers (Johns included) know how to handle this character. Being an icon and standard bearer for the Silver Age of Comics, I hafta wonder if Barry will ever fit into today's DCU.
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                        • BlackKnight
                          The DarkSide Customizer
                          • Apr 16, 2005
                          • 14622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by thunderbolt
                          Looks like he gets a new Sherwood Forest to hang out with the new series.

                          When I saw that ..., I laughed.
                          ... And Now He is an Outlaw , as well.
                          Great Writing there. lol.
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                          • BlackKnight
                            The DarkSide Customizer
                            • Apr 16, 2005
                            • 14622

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Toyroom
                            I'm a BIG Barry Allen fan...but it doesn't sound like the Barry Allen I'm familiar with...He's been gone for sooo long I really don't think the writers (Johns included) know how to handle this character. Being an icon and standard bearer for the Silver Age of Comics, I hafta wonder if Barry will ever fit into today's DCU.
                            Since his Return..., I have read almost everything.
                            I find the character in General a serious Bore Snooze Fest.
                            Wally's Spider-man-esque Crap talking was always just so fun imo.
                            Based on what I read so far ..., I think Barry shoulda just stayed Lost.
                            ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


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                            • The Toyroom
                              The Packaging King
                              • Dec 31, 2004
                              • 16653

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BlackKnight
                              Last I saw Roy ..., he was fighting the Urge for Some Smack ..., so He's all F'ed up right now, and seems to be completely outta the Loop ...,
                              I think it was a "given" that he'd be hooked on the junk again....Now there's an original idea for ya...
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