Marvel Seige #1

[MEMEGO]

Did any one get this? I felt so ripped off when I read this book, It did not have anything of interest the freebee would have been enough. Anyone other then me feel the same way? let me know

[haggis]

Thanks for the warning!

[BlackKnight]

I felt ripped off when they Announced it.

[Riffster]

is this where one of the warriors 3 gets it?

[samurainoir]

I just finished reading it.

I'm enjoying it. How long has it been since we've had the Big Three Avengers in one book? Thor's getting a beat down, Tony's just come out of a coma, and Cap is currently riddled with uncertainty.

Great set-up. Looking forward to seeing how this all shakes out. Nice to see a clear Good Guy/Bad Guy scenario here. Seeing Norman unravel is great fun after Dark Reign, and I love the Cabal one shot that preceded this with Doom vs the Dark Avengers. Heroes are only as good as the villains they face off against, and keep in mind the Dark Avengers also just took on Molecule Man!

[samurainoir]

Just read Seige embedded, and it's nice that they are following up with Volstagg in that one. I'm suspecting they are going to be doing a kind of "Crying on the Inside Clown" kind of thing and that this will end quite tragically somehow.

I do appreciate all these Marvels-style books they have been doing with Ben Urich, he's always been one of my favourite non-superhero characters in the Marvel U.

[johnnystorm]

I read the Preview, saw the "plan" to use Volstagg, so I kept my money when the first issue hit. Tired of Marvel's endless crossovers.
Always liked the Warriors Three, see no real reason to screw with them for the sake of this "event seven years in the making". Like I really believe they had a gameplan for all this nonsense.

[The Toyroom]

^ Nah, no gameplan....they're just winging it as they go along....They really need to get the Bendis stink off the Marvel Universe IMO.

[samurainoir]

^ Nah, no gameplan....they're just winging it as they go along....They really need to get the Bendis stink off the Marvel Universe IMO.

Of the currently roster of Marvel writers, who do you think would be a great driving force to turn things around for your enjoyment?

[goldenryan]

[goldenryan]

^^^^ if you don't like the pages i posted, i doubt you'll like the rest of the book.

[johnnystorm]

Of the currently roster of Marvel writers, who do you think would be a great driving force to turn things around for your enjoyment?

I'm not certain a single driving force is what they need, unless that force is an EDITOR-IN-CHIEF that can corral a bunch of writers into a cohesive unit. Both DC & Marvel are currently operating on this writer driven system (Marvel with Bendis, DC with Johns & Morrison). And while in some instances and some characters it works (for me), on others it just seems forced.
A good example is Johns on Green Lantern, a great fit, but Flash so far has fallen flat (again IMHO). And Morrison seemed to have a plan going with the Bat titles, but extending that into 52, and Countdown, etc wasn't such a good idea (Death of the New Gods?). And at least at DC, that plan failed because there is no driving EDITORIAL force, simply a meddler who won't leave things alone when it is going well. At Marvel, Joey Q seems happy to allow Bendis to do whatever he wants. And in both cases, it looks like after all the "7 years of events in the making" stuff, both universes seem headed back to where they were in the beginning. One of the reasons I try not to buy into the event crossovers anymore, after it's all said & done I feel cheated for spending money on books that really didn't accomplish all that much, a few heroes/villaind jump camps, and some needless deaths for shock value that eventually will get reset anyway. Wasp will be back. Aquaman will be back. Martian Manhunter will be back.
The worst part I believe is that the writer driven scenario works well only IF that particular writer is intimatly involved in all aspects of the plan for all series involved. Look at what happened at DC in the series I mentioned above that Morrison did not handle himself. Poor editorial control allowed it to meander all over the place.
I would much more prefer someone controlling the event and the Universes, someone who would be willing to say "NO" to some of these ideas. Unpopular as he was with some of the staff, Jim Shooter did a great job of doing just this.

Maybe after all this is over ...but I don't believe it will be over- after Siege WILL come another Event- DC is already touting the War with Krypton And as an aside, is there not a new idea out there? Marvel has all the Earth against Asgard, DC will now have Earth vs. Krypton...Marvel Zombies/Blackest Night...
both companies are now firmly of the mind that only an event driven company can sell books. To a large extent, gone forever I believe are the Bat-titles being an editorial group seperate from the Superman titles.

[BlackKnight]

I think Ingeneral,.. When I finish Reading an Arc, or a Comic come to it's conclusion..., I feel as if when I read the DC Book,.. I SEEM to get my Money's worth ..., and Am very Possitive. .. When I read and finish reading a Marvel Arc,.. I feel as if I got Ripped off,... the over all Story Blew, I wasn't that into it,.. and can't say I am too stoked for the next book. The only 2 Books I don't feel that with is X-Force and Deadpool Merc with a Mouth..., Both books are Entertaining to me,.. and I can't seem to wait for more.... However,.. I'd Take my Booster, Secret Six & GL book over those, any Day.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I think it's a side-effect of the death of the "floppy" comic. Every comic story has to be an "arc" and spread out over at least 4-6 issues so it can be collected in a trade. Since it's just one arc after another, there has to be even more "events" than before. Everything is an event. And it takes 20 issues to squeeze out a plot that Gardner Fox and Bob Haney could have put over in 22 pages or less.

Most of the modern writers seem to take the characterization route that Stan Lee first popularized at Marvel, and work out the beats the characters will go through first, and then worry about the plot later. Spread out over many issues, it makes the material seem really thin. And when the next event comes along to change the status quo yet again, it makes the character's journey seem redundant.

I wish comics could strike a healthy balance and get some interesting done-in-ones back in to the magazines. Whatever happened to actual subplots? I guess they aren't flashy enough.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

Of the currently roster of Marvel writers, who do you think would be a great driving force to turn things around for your enjoyment?

I'm not certain a single driving force is what they need, unless that force is an EDITOR-IN-CHIEF that can corral a bunch of writers into a cohesive unit. Both DC & Marvel are currently operating on this writer driven system (Marvel with Bendis, DC with Johns & Morrison). And while in some instances and some characters it works (for me), on others it just seems forced.
A good example is Johns on Green Lantern, a great fit, but Flash so far has fallen flat (again IMHO). And Morrison seemed to have a plan going with the Bat titles, but extending that into 52, and Countdown, etc wasn't such a good idea (Death of the New Gods?). And at least at DC, that plan failed because there is no driving EDITORIAL force, simply a meddler who won't leave things alone when it is going well. At Marvel, Joey Q seems happy to allow Bendis to do whatever he wants. And in both cases, it looks like after all the "7 years of events in the making" stuff, both universes seem headed back to where they were in the beginning. One of the reasons I try not to buy into the event crossovers anymore, after it's all said & done I feel cheated for spending money on books that really didn't accomplish all that much, a few heroes/villaind jump camps, and some needless deaths for shock value that eventually will get reset anyway. Wasp will be back. Aquaman will be back. Martian Manhunter will be back.
The worst part I believe is that the writer driven scenario works well only IF that particular writer is intimatly involved in all aspects of the plan for all series involved. Look at what happened at DC in the series I mentioned above that Morrison did not handle himself. Poor editorial control allowed it to meander all over the place.
I would much more prefer someone controlling the event and the Universes, someone who would be willing to say "NO" to some of these ideas. Unpopular as he was with some of the staff, Jim Shooter did a great job of doing just this.

Maybe after all this is over ...but I don't believe it will be over- after Siege WILL come another Event- DC is already touting the War with Krypton And as an aside, is there not a new idea out there? Marvel has all the Earth against Asgard, DC will now have Earth vs. Krypton...Marvel Zombies/Blackest Night...
both companies are now firmly of the mind that only an event driven company can sell books. To a large extent, gone forever I believe are the Bat-titles being an editorial group seperate from the Superman titles.

Yeah....what he said