What the heck?

[MegoSteve]

Back in the Day, & I guess REAL BACK in the Day.. Nick Fury Had is Own Comicbook. It was Called Sgt Fury and His Howling Commando's . This Book Took Place During WW2 . Now Knowing American History, A Black Man would have Not been incharge of an American Platoon of Ground Soldier's in 1945 or whatever.

Since WWII ended 64 years ago and the youngest sergeant in the war was probably around 20, Nick Fury would have to be played by an actor at least 84 years old. Dick Van Dyke?

[Raydeen1]

Nick Fury doesn't age so much anymore due to a drug he got which is the same drug Baron Strucker used to stay young. While he may be old, he does not LOOK old.

Since WWII ended 64 years ago and the youngest sergeant in the war was probably around 20, Nick Fury would have to be played by an actor at least 84 years old. Dick Van Dyke?

[Brazoo]

Nick Fury and his Howling Hemorrhoids!

[saildog]

Back in the Day, & I guess REAL BACK in the Day.. Nick Fury Had is Own Comicbook. It was Called Sgt Fury and His Howling Commando's . This Book Took Place During WW2 . Now Knowing American History, A Black Man would have Not been incharge of an American Platoon of Ground Soldier's in 1945 or whatever.

Yep, I knew that and thought of including it in my post. Just last weekend, I held up a Silver Age copy of Sgt. Fury to show garagesale while we were at the comic shop.

However, there were distinguished fighting men in World War 2 that were Black. Units were not integrated and most African Americans served in support roles, but there were segregated units like the 92nd Infantry that were combat units and had Soldiers who won the Medal of Honor for action during World War 2 (granted, the medals were awarded over 50 years after the fact...point being they served with distinction). Historically, SGT. Fury and His Howling Commandos could realistically be written as an African American Unit.

I realize these may be little known facts, but historically, it could be accurate. Even if it the facts wouldn't support the story.....it's not like the History in the original comics was spot-on to begin with.

[BlackKnight]

Yep, I knew that and thought of including it in my post. Just last weekend, I held up a Silver Age copy of Sgt. Fury to show garagesale while we were at the comic shop.

However, there were distinguished fighting men in World War 2 that were Black. Units were not integrated and most African Americans served in support roles, but there were segregated units like the 92nd Infantry that were combat units and had Soldiers who won the Medal of Honor for action during World War 2 (granted, the medals were awarded over 50 years after the fact...point being they served with distinction). Historically, SGT. Fury and His Howling Commandos could realistically be written as an African American Unit.

I realize these may be little known facts, but historically, it could be accurate. Even if it the facts wouldn't support the story.....it's not like the History in the original comics was spot-on to begin with.

Well if you knew all that,.. then you already knew the own answer to your Question.

[Brazoo]

It actually does kind of bug me when different actors play the same rolls in sequels.

Like Maggie Gyllenhaal taking over for Katie Holmes in Dark Knight - even though I prefer Gyllenhaal.

Don Cheadle taking over for Terrence Howard in Iron Man 2 bugs me.

[samurainoir]

I with Ya on that BK...never been a Thor Fan, but I'll watch it because Kenneth Branagh is directing it.

The race change that has me ticked off the most, is Sam Jackson as Nick Fury. I want the REAL Nick Fury DAMMIT!

Here you go...

[samurainoir]

Yep, I knew that and thought of including it in my post. Just last weekend, I held up a Silver Age copy of Sgt. Fury to show garagesale while we were at the comic shop.

However, there were distinguished fighting men in World War 2 that were Black. Units were not integrated and most African Americans served in support roles, but there were segregated units like the 92nd Infantry that were combat units and had Soldiers who won the Medal of Honor for action during World War 2 (granted, the medals were awarded over 50 years after the fact...point being they served with distinction). Historically, SGT. Fury and His Howling Commandos could realistically be written as an African American Unit.

I realize these may be little known facts, but historically, it could be accurate. Even if it the facts wouldn't support the story.....it's not like the History in the original comics was spot-on to begin with.

I agree, finding historical accuracy in a highly fictionalized fantasy world like Marvel comics is kind of a moot point.

Although if we are digging for historical precedence that they used to base on both the Ultimate Comics version of Nick Fury and the Black Captain America they introduced a few years ago, Tuskegee shows how African American males were experimented on by the US government.

In their respective origins, Ultimate Fury and Isaiah Bradley were guinea pigs for the Super Soldier syrum.

[Brazoo]

This debate deserves a classic Stan Lee No-Prize answer.

Obviously our actual history of WWII and the history of WWII in Marvel's universe diverged slightly. Fighting the Axis with super-powered humans, flaming androids and flying Atlanteans, was working out great, so the US Army decided to allow some other weird stuff to happen. They sent young teenagers (lest we forget Bucky) to fight Nazis on the front lines (without a gun), and Nick Fury was promoted as the first black Sergeant in American history to command an integrated unit.

P.S. Wikipedia reminds me that even the original white version of Nick Fury commanded a historically incorrect integrated unit. Private Gabriel Jones was African American.

[Meule]

It actually does kind of bug me when different actors play the same rolls in sequels.

Like Maggie Gyllenhaal taking over for Katie Holmes in Dark Knight - even though I prefer Gyllenhaal.

Felt like a mistake had been rectified to me

[aquatroy]

Well, how then does Marvel explain Hogun. He looks to be Mongolian and Tadanobu Asano was cast to play the part. How does he fit into the MU Thor mythos?

[Brazoo]

For what it's worth Wikipedia quotes Stan Lee saying that Hogun was based on Charles Bronson.

[samurainoir]

For what it's worth Wikipedia quotes Stan Lee saying that Hogun was based on Charles Bronson.

To bring it full circle, Charles Bronson is of Mongolian descent.

[aquatroy]

Interesting, but it doesn't explain how this lone Asian guy is one of the Norse gods.

[saildog]

For what it's worth Wikipedia quotes Stan Lee saying that Hogun was based on Charles Bronson.

Good catch, Brazoo!!!! I read that and I started to see why this could be feasible.

To bring it full circle, Charles Bronson is of Mongolian descent.

Thanks for following up on Brazoo's post. Brazoo's post and your follow up really help to make sense of this. In fact, given the info you both have provided, it seems like a no-brainer, now.

Thumbs up to both of you!!!!