Neal Adams returns to Batman (with Frank Miller)

[Earth 2 Chris]

Yes, Batman occasionally used a gun during his first year, but after that, barring flashbacks to the period, he has vowed never to use guns (even in Batman Begins, which handled it very well).

So Bob Kane as the creator, actually had no problem with Batman carrying and using a gun, it was an editorial decision that got declared in print in Batman #4.

Don't believe a word Bob Kane said, either.

Although that may be true. Whitney Ellsworth has long been portrayed as the paragon of virtue at DC. He kept the comics clean, so they didn't suffer much from the Wertham led backlash in the 50s, and also went to Hollywood and toned down The Adventures of Superman after the first violent season.


Chris

[samurainoir]

Batman unmasked: analysing a ... - Google Books

From the horse's mouth...

'I had Batman use a gun to shoot a villain, and I was called on the carpet by Whit Ellsworth. He said, "Never let us have Batman carry a gun again

So Bob Kane as the creator, actually had no problem with Batman carrying and using a gun, it was an editorial decision that got declared in print in Batman #4.

Batman never carries, or kills with a gun.

In contrast with Batman #1 where Batman kills a bunch of criminals with the Batplane's machine guns.

[samurainoir]

Yr 1 is another frank miller so I think we can safely say BATS uses GUNS when Miller is writing

I think they are referring to the earliest period in the Golden Age during the first year or so when Batman would be seen with a gun and occasionally killed a criminal or two.

Although it wasn't Year 1 where Batman had the gun, it was Mike Barr's Batman Year 2. That story had to do with Joe Chill and the gun that killed his parents.



Although Miller did try to mess with the fans by having Batman seen shooting a rifle during The Dark Knight, but it turned out to be a grappling gun.

[jds1911a1]

Hey didn't batman start out with guns in the very early day?
I loved Adams work but not miller, it'll be a coin toss for this.

Yr 1 is another frank miller so I think we can safely say BATS uses GUNS when Miller is writing

[The Toyroom]

And if Miller is to blame for the lateness of All Star Bats, shouldn't he be finishing that up first?

And doesn't Miller still have that Batman:Holy Terror story to finish also?

[The Bat]

Why, why, why?!!! We finally get to see Adams draw Batman again after all the years...and they team him up with Frank(I'm trying to ruin Batman)Miller!!!! ARGHHHHH!

[thunderbolt]

And he used one to cripple Darkseid it was a special bullet, tho. And if Miller is to blame for the lateness of All Star Bats, shouldn't he be finishing that up first?

[BlackKnight]

I believe Batman Used a Gun in Yr 2, To Take Down the Reaper.

[ctc]

>He used one once to kill a Vampire.

Yeah, he usually just dropped guys off of builkdings as I recall.

Don C.

[Captain]

He didnt really start out with a gun. He used one once to kill a Vampire.

I like Adams work ok, but I agree with you guys, the gun use and Miller involvement kinda kills the deal for me. They should have brought Adams back to do some covers or something instead...or bring in a better Bat-writer like Dennis O'Neil or Len Wein and do a good old fashioned comic book yarn!

[bobws]

Hey didn't batman start out with guns in the very early day?
I loved Adams work but not miller, it'll be a coin toss for this.

[BlackKnight]

If it's an Elseworlds story, I might be interested..., not really wanting to throw Miller some more Coin though...

[madmarva]

guns and Miller or not, I'll buy an Adams Batman project.

Supposedly, it's and 80-page story, but Didio said it won't be solicited until he has all the page.

Smart idea.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I hope there's a good explanation for the guns, although it's probably Miller taking another dump on the Batman character and getting paid for it.

Why oh why did Adams have to hook up with Miller. I've long waited for his return to Batman, but I'll probably have to pass on this.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

Is that Batman with guns?! That's not cool and that's NOT Batman! Adams' art looks great but with Miller writing I assume I can't say I'm as anxious as you guys.....