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  • saildog
    Permanent Member
    • Apr 9, 2006
    • 2270

    New Frontier Question

    I still have a lot of my stuff in storage from my recent move so I can't easily lay hands on my copy of New Frontier to verify this, but I made a recent discovery related to New Frontier that I find interesting.

    If I remember correctly, there is a point at the beginning of the story where Barry Allen is watching TV in his apartment when Iris calls from Las Vegas. I seem to remember him watching TV and the program was a Western called Johnny Thunder on the Dumont Network.

    I found this on the Web yesterday and it makes that little inclusion of Johnny Thunder seem pretty relevant.


    Aside from being a harbinger of a new comic book genre, which would become important for DC (and comics in general) during the 1950s, Johnny was a harbinger of a practice that became increasingly prevalent at DC during the 1950s, '60s and beyond — naming new characters after old ones. The Flash, Hawkman, Robotman and dozens of others have been revived over the years ...
    (emphasis mine)

    http://www.toonopedia.com/jthundr2.htm

    Given that the whole theme of New Frontier was the transition of the Golden
    Age to the Silver Age, I have to think this little inclusion, though a blip on the radar in the comic, was by design.

    Any thoughts on this? Am I on the right track here?
  • jds1911a1
    Alan Scott is the best GL
    • Aug 8, 2007
    • 3556

    #2
    intriguing I trhin that's right gotta put it in and check but Johnny thinder was indeed a western comic in the 50's from National pub (aka dc) so I can see it the in joke nod whether from Bruce Timm or even Darwyn Cooke the original author who was a child of the 50's

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    • thunderbolt
      Hi Ernie!!!
      • Feb 15, 2004
      • 34211

      #3
      It was in the comic, too. One of Cooke's many little nods to the comics of the time from DC.
      You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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      • johnnystorm
        Hot Child in the City
        • Jul 3, 2008
        • 4293

        #4
        And in that 1950S era the TV Western would have been one of the most popular choices for viewing, so it's doubly fitting.

        And Johnny Thunder was a pretty good series, one I wish DC would revive, if only for a story or two. Ran for a long time in All-Star Western, along with the Trigger Twins. It was a semi-crossover to the superhero theme, in that Johnny Thunder had a mild-mannered secret id as a schoolteacher, changing his clothes and haircolor to become JT. And if you think Clark Kent's glasses was a poor disguise, consider that nobody connected JT and his alter ego including the Sheriff, his own father, when the total disguise consisted of wire-rim glasses and black hair dye!

        I'd love to see the straight-shootin' TV style western hero appear in an issue of Jonah Hex, mixing it up with that type of gunfighter (provided they don't treat Johnny as a clown, just a cowboy hero with a different style from Jonah).

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        • thunderbolt
          Hi Ernie!!!
          • Feb 15, 2004
          • 34211

          #5
          Was the western JT supposed to be an ancestor of the Golden Age Thunder?
          You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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          • The Toyroom
            The Packaging King
            • Dec 31, 2004
            • 16653

            #6
            ^ Actually the western Johnny Thunder is the ancestor of Bouncing Boy of the Legion.
            Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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