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  • Riffster
    Atomic batteries to power
    • Jun 29, 2008
    • 2487

    Which came first?

    Batman lost in time thanks to the omega deally? or Cap back in time due to time bullets was it?

    copycats
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    And Super Powers Batman
  • Earth 2 Chris
    Verbose Member
    • Mar 7, 2004
    • 32972

    #2
    I read a Newsarama interview with Brubaker last week that addressed some of this.

    Seems like another one of those weird comic coincidences, the kind that gave us two teams of weirdos led by a guy in a wheelchair (Doom Patrol and X-Men) at the same time, and 2 swamp monsters/heroes at the same time (Swamp Thing and Man-Thing).

    Besides this, both Batman and Cap got back long-dead sidekicks around the same time (Bucky and Jason Todd).

    Chris
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    • ctc
      Fear the monkeybat!
      • Aug 16, 2001
      • 11183

      #3
      >Seems like another one of those weird comic coincidences,

      It's funny how many of these there have been over the years between DC and Marvel. Not that I think they're ALL copycating; but I suspect a lot of parrallel development: the chiefs at each company observing the same trends and thinking "if only we had a book like THAT" at the same time.

      But it IS kinda funny.

      Don C.

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      • samurainoir
        Eloquent Member
        • Dec 26, 2006
        • 18758

        #4
        Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
        2 swamp monsters/heroes at the same time (Swamp Thing and Man-Thing).
        I know that has always been the "party-line" between Marvel and DC legally, but I always thought that the fact that Gerry Conway and Len Wein were room-mates made it a bit more than synchronicity. Didn't Wein also have a hand in scripting the early Man Thing appearance as well as writing his two variant Swamp Thing stories? If you can get away with writing a similar enough concept for two different companies and still get the pay-check, why not? Particularly when you didn't really come up with the "original idea" to begin with.

        What is comes down to really is the fact that The Heap came first and everyone involved seems to acknowledge that as the driving influence don't they?



        It's too bad the Swamp Monster book that Two Morrows was going to publish never got finished. I would have loved to have read the behind the scenes stuff in more detail on the creations of Man and Swamp Things.
        Last edited by samurainoir; Jul 14, '09, 4:09 PM.
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        • thunderbolt
          Hi Ernie!!!
          • Feb 15, 2004
          • 34211

          #5
          Cap got whacked first, but Bats got the Omega Transfer well before Cap's return method was revealed. To bad DC and Mrvel can't get along, a BuckyCap and DickBats crossover would be interesting. I wonder if marvel is bringing the Heroes Reborn Bucky in as a new sidekick for Cap.
          You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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          • BlackKnight
            The DarkSide Customizer
            • Apr 16, 2005
            • 14622

            #6
            Yeah,.. Don't forget Captain America "Reborn"
            & Batman "Reborn"
            ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


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            • Captain
              Fighting the good fight!
              • Jun 17, 2001
              • 6031

              #7
              "Heroes Reborn Bucky"?...you mean theres another Bucky besides the Winter Soldier/Cap one running around?
              "Crayons taste like purple!"

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              • The Toyroom
                The Packaging King
                • Dec 31, 2004
                • 16653

                #8
                ^ Yeah the chick Bucky somehow got stuck in the Marvel 616 Universe after some recent Onslaught garbage.....
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                • thunderbolt
                  Hi Ernie!!!
                  • Feb 15, 2004
                  • 34211

                  #9
                  Couldn't remember if tht Image Marvel mashup was called Reborn or what. (I'm still trying to forget it ever happened). But yeah the chick Bucky.
                  You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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                  • BlackKnight
                    The DarkSide Customizer
                    • Apr 16, 2005
                    • 14622

                    #10
                    There was a chick Robin too. ... Man,.. what's up with all this crap ?
                    ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                    always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                    • samurainoir
                      Eloquent Member
                      • Dec 26, 2006
                      • 18758

                      #11
                      Iron Man and Green Lantern seem to synch up with their experimentation as well.

                      Didn't Rhodey and John Stewart slip on their respective rings and armour around the same period in the eighties? Also: Didn't Hal and Tony both go nuts went on insane killing sprees around the same timeframe?

                      Rhodey and John Stewart also got their own solo spinoff series in the early nineties, although I think War Machine's solo title came later.
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                      • Earth 2 Chris
                        Verbose Member
                        • Mar 7, 2004
                        • 32972

                        #12
                        Two chick Robins; Carrie Kelly from The Dark Knight Returns, and Stephanie Brown, aka The Spoiler.

                        Plus there was Jill St. John disguised as Robin...

                        Chris
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                        • samurainoir
                          Eloquent Member
                          • Dec 26, 2006
                          • 18758

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                          Two chick Robins; Carrie Kelly from The Dark Knight Returns, and Stephanie Brown, aka The Spoiler.

                          Plus there was Jill St. John disguised as Robin...

                          Chris
                          Frank Miller's female Robin definitely came first in '86, the female Bucky didn't show up until Heroes Reborn in the nineties. Wasn't there a blatant Dark Knight swipe in Liefeld's Captain America art?
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                          • Captain
                            Fighting the good fight!
                            • Jun 17, 2001
                            • 6031

                            #14
                            Originally posted by samurainoir
                            Iron Man and Green Lantern seem to synch up with their experimentation as well.

                            Didn't Rhodey and John Stewart slip on their respective rings and armour around the same period in the eighties? Also: Didn't Hal and Tony both go nuts went on insane killing sprees around the same timeframe?

                            Rhodey and John Stewart also got their own solo spinoff series in the early nineties, although I think War Machine's solo title came later.
                            Didnt John Stewart first show up during the early seventies? I would have to dig them out and read them again to be sure, but I thought he popped up in some of the O'neil/Adams stories
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