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  • clemso
    Talkative Member
    • Aug 8, 2001
    • 6189

    #31
    Originally posted by thunderbolt
    ^^^ The Ben Affleck DD???
    For continuity that might be interesting, but I am sure there are some other actors who can fit the bill. Also KING PIN would have to be the common foe.

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    • huedell
      Museum Ball Eater
      • Dec 31, 2003
      • 11069

      #32
      I wasn't so teed off at "Affleck" DD as many comic fans/movie fans were.

      I didn't think the DD movie was "awesome" but I tolerated it quite easy,
      leaving the theatre satisfied.

      Unfortunately, I think "Affleck" DD is tainted, besides, Affleck has said
      he's pretty bitter about the whole thing anyway.

      Bottomline: there's no good reason to get Affleck to ever play DD again.

      That aside.

      Seeing SPIDERMAN AND DAREDEVIL as a movie title on the marquee would
      be quite the thrill...and I bet a lot of you would agree with me.

      Frankly ANY superhero team-up like that would be cool, huh?

      The FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER movie had that
      kind of going for it.

      Personally I would've called the movie FANTASTIC FOUR AND SILVER SURFER
      or FANTASTIC FOUR MEET SILVER SURFER...looks cooler on the marquee
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      • clemso
        Talkative Member
        • Aug 8, 2001
        • 6189

        #33
        Or FANTASTIC FOUR: THE COMING OF THE CLOUD

        Yeah i would be well up for a Spider-man DD movie

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        • samurainoir
          Eloquent Member
          • Dec 26, 2006
          • 18758

          #34
          I think the contrast between The Dark Knight and Spider-man 3 proved that if you do the 2 villain approach, it is best if you can tie them together in a more compelling way.

          It was a real stretch to get Venom and Sandman to team up finally at the end, at times it was like 2 different movies. A "Jean Valjean" approach to a tragic villain was good with Sandman, and the "Evil Doppelganger" is a tried and true staple... but perhaps best left on their own in separate stories. The Joker storyline in Dark Knight dovetailed into the Two Face development perfectly with strong impact and powerful consequences.

          I think it was good for them to take a break from the "Father Figure" villains like Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus, and it will definitely be a challenge for them to find a different twist with Doctor Conners given the fact that he too is the reluctant "Father Figure" type as well to Peter. Although this was all part and parcel with the early appeal of Spiderman as a teenager/young man/orphan finding his way into the world and adulthood. Both in rebelling and proving himself to the allegorical "Fathers" that seemed to make his most compelling silver age villains.
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          • palitoy
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            • Jun 16, 2001
            • 59794

            #35
            It was a real stretch to get Venom and Sandman to team up finally at the end, at times it was like 2 different movies.
            I thought the scene where Venom and Sandman team up was written by a child or swiped from the old easy reader comics. Not much motivation there, very weak just "hey you, let's join forces!".
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            • samurainoir
              Eloquent Member
              • Dec 26, 2006
              • 18758

              #36
              Originally posted by clemso
              For continuity that might be interesting, but I am sure there are some other actors who can fit the bill. Also KING PIN would have to be the common foe.
              My thought was always "Why Ben Affleck and not Matt Damon?".

              Given the quick reboot of The Incredible Hulk, I'm sure Marvel Execs would probably consider a low risk approach of reintroducing Daredevil into a Spiderman film. Just look at the X-Men films... already they have Gambit, Deadpool and X-Men 1st Class ready to roll out of Wolverine. Daredevil also adds more merchandising opportunities to the mix.

              I know I would dig The Kingpin as a Spidey Villain, and given Spiderman's constant trouble with the law, it makes a good reason for him to interact with Matt Murdock in the court system and outside of it as Daredevil.

              I would just love to see their relationship on film a bit closer to the antagonistic approach of the Ultimate Universe interactions.
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              • samurainoir
                Eloquent Member
                • Dec 26, 2006
                • 18758

                #37
                You know what would be really funny and perfect for Bruce Campbell's Mysterio?

                When Raimi is finally done with Spiderman movies and decides to hang it up, "Mysterio" should finally show up in costume, and rattle on about how he has been Spiderman and Peter Parker's scourge and arch-nemesis for all these years. Showing up when he least expects it to make Spidey's life a living hell.

                He pulls off the fishbowl for the big reveal... and Spiderman is all "Who are You?"

                Leave it to Campbell to do his classic floundering posturing at that point... I'm the guy who wouldn't let you in the theatre! I'm the ****** of a maitre d! etc. You ruined my show-biz career at that Wrestling match, and I've been savoring my revenge!

                Let Maguire do his "What the?" face, mayhem ensues.

                Don't make it the crux of a movie, just give Campbell his little moment to shine (perhaps before the opening credits roll).
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                • Earth 2 Chris
                  Verbose Member
                  • Mar 7, 2004
                  • 32977

                  #38
                  I thought the scene where Venom and Sandman team up was written by a child or swiped from the old easy reader comics. Not much motivation there, very weak just "hey you, let's join forces!".
                  Yeah, that was Superman IV like quality writing there. That and the jazz club scene were completely horrible. Other parts were okay, but those bring it down so much.

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                  • samurainoir
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Dec 26, 2006
                    • 18758

                    #39
                    Originally posted by palitoy
                    I thought the scene where Venom and Sandman team up was written by a child or swiped from the old easy reader comics.
                    LOL! Not so quick on the uptake today, only just got the Spidey Super Stories/Morgan Freeman Electric Company reference.



                    I actually did learn to read with these comics. It was an issue with The Jester. I teared up as Punisher put a bullet in his head in Civil War. 8)
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                    • huedell
                      Museum Ball Eater
                      • Dec 31, 2003
                      • 11069

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                      Yeah, that was Superman IV like quality writing there. That and the jazz club scene were completely horrible. Other parts were okay, but those bring it down so much.

                      Chris
                      I agree those weren't written the best (particularly the Venom/Sandman
                      scene talk about economy of words/concepts!), but I was looking at
                      SPIDEY 3 differently---it seems you're looking at it from that the
                      movie is only as good as it's weakest link.

                      The Parker routine at the Jazz Club was weird---not just for it's
                      "musical number within an action movie" aspect---I could handle that---
                      but after that Parker slaps Mary Jane hard and it's such a sharp emotional
                      turn at that point that I felt uncomfortable.
                      "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                      • BlackKnight
                        The DarkSide Customizer
                        • Apr 16, 2005
                        • 14622

                        #41
                        Originally posted by palitoy
                        Not much motivation there, very weak just "hey you, let's join forces!".
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                        • clemso
                          Talkative Member
                          • Aug 8, 2001
                          • 6189

                          #42
                          New Goblin was so lame, I think Sandman was dead on though.

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                          • Hector
                            el Hombre de Acero
                            • May 19, 2003
                            • 31852

                            #43
                            Originally posted by kingdom warrior
                            Awww yeah!!!! let's all get Chris to Hollywood so he can write the script!!!

                            Morbius for me is too Dark of a character for spidey...too many little kids see these movies to have a Vampire in it.
                            Who cares about little kids.

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                            • Hector
                              el Hombre de Acero
                              • May 19, 2003
                              • 31852

                              #44
                              Originally posted by MIB41
                              I love the idea of Morbius. That character could give the series an edginess it lost from part 3. PLUS it gives Raimi a chance to inject some of his great horror skills into the franchise. I think the movie could be a classic!
                              Agreed.

                              Plus Morbius is not a come from the dead vampire in the traditional sense...he is a living vampire spawned from science.
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                              • Hector
                                el Hombre de Acero
                                • May 19, 2003
                                • 31852

                                #45
                                Originally posted by clemso
                                I would like to see DareDevil in Spider-man.

                                Clem
                                Just not with Ben Affleck, urgh.

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