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  • samurainoir
    Eloquent Member
    • Dec 26, 2006
    • 18758

    Who Should Be the Architects of the DCU?

    Geoff Johns can't be everywhere at once.

    Over at Marvel, there seems to be some real creative back and forth going on between their top guys like Brain Bendis, Mark Millar, Warren Ellis, Matt Fraction and Ed Brubaker. Characters and concepts get tossed back and forth and gain momentum and for the most part build on each other fairly cohesively.

    Theoretically this was what the Post 52 universe would look like right? Johns, Waid, Rucka and Morrison jamming on ideas and concepts and using that as the launchpad for the DCU. Didn't quite work out that way (whether you blame editorial or the writers themselves).

    So which writers would you invite to a creative summit and charge with the overall direction of the DCU?
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  • The Toyroom
    The Packaging King
    • Dec 31, 2004
    • 16653

    #2
    I've made my feelings known on Morrison quite a bit lately so I wouldn't be inviting him....

    Johns most definitely would the go-to guy. I'd like to see more from Gail Simone, I think she's got the chops but I think she's fighting an uphill battle over on Wonder Woman. This run really isn't doing it for me. But her Secret Six and Birds of Prey show she can handle the big casts and bigger picture of the DCU.

    Mark Waid has been greatly underappreciated by DC lately and has been doing stuff as Boom's E-I-C. I'd love to see him return to the DC on more of a full-time basis. Like Johns, he's good at this stuff.

    I also think Len Wein and Marv Wolfman should be given some more stuff....yeah they're old-school but they've been doing work for DC as of late and I think they can still tell good multiversal stories.
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    • The Bat
      Batman Fanatic
      • Jul 14, 2002
      • 13412

      #3
      Denny O'Neil. Or Jeff Loeb.
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      • The Toyroom
        The Packaging King
        • Dec 31, 2004
        • 16653

        #4
        ^ Loeb is exclusive with Marvel still....
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        • Airdave817
          Satellite Monitor Duty
          • May 31, 2007
          • 498

          #5
          It would be nice to see Johns, Waid, Kurt Busiek, Marv Wolfman even James Robinson play to their strengths.

          From what I've seen, DC has never been very kind to writers. Except for the superstar or offbeat writer...
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          • The Toyroom
            The Packaging King
            • Dec 31, 2004
            • 16653

            #6
            ^ Robinson would be another good candidate....I haven't cared for much of his new stuff this past year but I think it's slowly getting better.
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            • kryptosmaster
              Removed.
              • Jun 14, 2008
              • 0

              #7
              Just get rid of Dildio. Once you remove the tumor, the body can heal itself.
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              • BlackKnight
                The DarkSide Customizer
                • Apr 16, 2005
                • 14622

                #8
                Originally posted by The Toyroom
                ^ Loeb is exclusive with Marvel still....

                Yeah,.. That Sucks !!!

                I am Reading Hulk & Ultimatium,.. But If I was DC Comics,.. I'd Say yo Marvel,.. We will Trade you Morrison For Loeb Straight Across,.. & Morrison Comes recommended by the Great AquaTroy & TBolt Of the Mego Museum , Who say he is Legendary, everything he Touches is just sooooo, ... Fantastic....

                ...I think they might Bite ..

                But if that didn't work,.. I'd Fire Morrison , & Pay Loeb double of what Marvel does to get him Back.

                Besides,.. Doesn't Johns fix ,.. or have to re-explain most of Morrisons Writes these days anyway ?.

                Wolfman Still Tells a great story... Reading Vigilantee Now...

                Simone Rocks on Secret Six,.. & Johns has been god on GL Since Rebirth ...

                I don't want to spread the people I enjoy reading out,.. When you do that,.. they start Dropping stuff,.. Case in point Johns on BoosterGold. ... Screw the rest of the universe .
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                • johnnystorm
                  Hot Child in the City
                  • Jul 3, 2008
                  • 4293

                  #9
                  DC has a number of excellent writers- Geoff Johns, James Robinson, Gail Simone have been mentioned. Jimmy Palmiotti did a good run on Hawkman, great run on Jonah Hex. Even Grant Morrison did a really great turn in All-Star Superman.
                  The problem isn't the writing staff...it's the blockheaded editorial policies of Dan DiDio. No coherency, no direction. Some of the writers like Johns, left to a free hand turn out good stuff (Sinestro Corps being the primary example). Guys like Morrison may be teeming with ideas, but without a strong editor to reign it in, it runs amok (Countdown, Final Crisis). Even a mastermind like Jack Kirby needed the strength of another to make some sense of the ideas he churned out (Fantastic Four vs. Eternals or Devil Dinosaur).

                  What the DC Universe needs right now is an Editor-In-Chief, someone like they had in Dick Giordano or Julie Schwartz. There was a lot of creative change under Giordano, yet nothing near the carnage we've seen at DC under Didio. Truthfully, after it's all said & done, just what has been accomplished within the past few years? Alienation of a lot of the fan base, changes for the sake of change- only to see many of the changes reversed within a matter of months, death & destruction of many characters for shock value (and apparently only to be resurrected again?) Why was Superboy killed only to be brought back a year later? Lawsuit issues, maybe,but it would have been just as simple to have him trapped in another universe, lost in space, disappear into time, etc.
                  Same goes for Impulse. And the Marvel Family. Hawkman & Adam Strange. Legion of Super-Heroes. Teen Titans. Blue Beetle. Many poor decisions & inept reversals.

                  How much time and money has been wasted by Geoff Johns having to write yet another series or storyline to fix a mess that someone else (DIDIO) thought was a good idea that week but changed his mind after the books came out and tanked? Just think of what a great storyline we could be seeing in Teen Titans or LSH right now if we didn't have to take a COUPLE YEARS away for fixing event driven non-changes?

                  And doesn't DC/Warner have the resources for testing public opinion? My god, I get e-mail surveys all the time asking me about cel phone preferences, type of car I might want to buy next summer, what kind of topping I like on my sundae at Friendly's? You would think DC could test series ideas or public opinion before unleashing a stinker like Martian Manhunter or a new Atom?

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                  • madmarva
                    Talkative Member
                    • Jul 7, 2007
                    • 6445

                    #10
                    I'd bring in Roger Stern and John Ostrander and John Byrne and Mark Waid to go along with Johns, Robinson, Rucka, Simone and Morrison. I don't hate the guy like some of you do.

                    I'd also get JS Straschinski (sic) involved with the DCU proper, probably on a Superman title or maybe Justice League or Wonder Woman if Simone ever gave up the title.

                    I'd like to see what Stern and Byrne would do with Batman and maybe Hawkman.

                    I'd like to see Ostrander's take on Aquaman and Deadman.

                    Waid would be great on the Atom maybe as a back-up and one of the Superman titles

                    Johns on Flash and Green Lantern and anything else he'd like to do.

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                    • thunderbolt
                      Hi Ernie!!!
                      • Feb 15, 2004
                      • 34211

                      #11
                      Didio just needs to be removed from the equation, replace him with someone who really cares for the DCU and would let the creators create like Mark Waid .
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                      • Earth 2 Chris
                        Verbose Member
                        • Mar 7, 2004
                        • 32968

                        #12
                        Bruce Timm.

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                        • CaptainTrenchcoat
                          Career Member
                          • Jul 6, 2006
                          • 858

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
                          Bruce Timm.

                          Chris
                          Totally agee on this. Timm has a real understanding of the characters and their place in the DCU.

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                          • The Toyroom
                            The Packaging King
                            • Dec 31, 2004
                            • 16653

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BlackKnight
                            Case in point Johns on BoosterGold. ... Screw the rest of the universe .
                            Yeah but Dan Jurgens is doing a good job IMO....he's underated.
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                            • The Toyroom
                              The Packaging King
                              • Dec 31, 2004
                              • 16653

                              #15
                              I wonder how much is left on DiDio's contract....and will it be renewed?
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