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It's a work of genius. It's a flawed work of genius, but it's so intense, stirring, horrific, beautiful, thought-provoking and above all, challenging, that I place WATCHMEN on par with The Dark Knight -- another overlong, challenging work -- as the best two films of the superhero genre.
TOPNOTCH: The underlying philosophies. The depth of character. The sci-fi concepts. The action scenes. The music. The cinematography. Jackie Earle Haley's scenery-chewing, head-splitting performance as Rorscach.
DRAWBACKS: The running time is a bit long in the tooth (though compared to the novel it's a breeze). Carla Gugino gives an unconvincing performance, esp. as the eldery mother. There's a lack of focus on the prospect of nuclear war; this is explained by the brass, but we never feel the resonance on a "street" or popular level.
Evidently a forthcoming four-hour version will include more material about the populace, the Keene Act, and various character bits including another Roschach atrocity.Comment
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I went and saw it with my wife yesterday. I really liked it but she hated it. Not her tyoe of movie. I thought it was very faithful to the book. that being said I thought the book moved very slow so the movie does as well. I did not think the sex scenes were too much, i think it needed more...LOL.....they did show entirely too much man butt though.... that woman is hot, no doubt about it, expecially in the yellow spandex...youzaComment
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I had a diehard Watchman and comicbook fan tell me that this movie completley sucked. I am still going to see it. The fact it came from a guy that loved this comicbook really bummed me out. He said there was too much "wee wee in the movie". Whatever that means.
I guess I will find out. I am going tomorrow.Comment
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I think for those old enough to remember the height of the cold war or even the SALT talks in the 70's and the last time the sov's ran to the german border in 85 the film resonated. I still remember the Day after on tv and real fear of the USSR before glasnost. Thanfully the fear of nuclear annihilation is gone and like a remake of Failsafe when the fear of nuclear war is disolved the tension of the story is diminished. When Moore wrote it the berlin wall hadn't even come down yet (If I recall it came down while the book was being published.
That said I am glad this film didn't get made till now. Now the majesty Moore and Gibbons envisioned can translate and not look silly on screen.
this story does an excellent job covering the points of the book so even if you never read watchmen just pay attention and you will be able to follow along the same way those of us who have read it did the first timeComment
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Considering that the character was a bit of a reclusive, distant, brain box before his accident, it's not surprising that it wouldn't have occured to him that he could have reassembled himself as a tripod.Comment
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Can't argue with that, but the one thing I complained about was that "Tales of the Black Freighter" wasn't in it, but thank goodness that they did in a cartoon form! I LOVED that, my favorite part of the story. Gerrard's gunna burn that one up, and if it's as faithful as the movie is I will be happy.sigpic
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I'm convinced that the most dedicated comic book "fanboys" aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. There are times when I include myself in that, too.
I thought the movie was pretty good. Watchmen is the ultimate dark, grim and gritty story. It's not like Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man or even X-Men. There is no hope in Watchmen. Ozymandias is like Blofeld or Dr. No - but he wins. Evil finally triumphs over good. in both the book and the movie he's smarter than the heroes. That's why the line, "I did it thrity-five minutes ago" has so much weight. He's been one step ahead of everybody - except The Comedian the whole time.
Watchmen is like Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.
My wife hated Watchmen. She's still not speaking to me for taking her to see it. I purposely didn't pick up the book at all since I read that it was coming out. I flipped through it over the weekend after seeing it. I liked that the movie was faithful to the comic. I was disappointed by having to see Manhattan's junk for three hours. The violence was a bit exessive - I expected Rorshach to be violent, but not Nite Owl or Silk Spectre. They struck me more as thrillseekers. I guess they just got caught up in the rush.
Now that I've seen it, I'd probably do the same like I've done with the trade paperback. Put it up. If I feel the urge to read it again, I'll pull it down off the shelf. If I feel the urge to see it again, I'll put it on my Netflix queue.
I'll agree that it is a benchmark work. It's still a very dark story. Kinda like Of Mice and Men. That one didn't appeal to me either.Shameless self-promotion -
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Did anyone else think the new ending worked better?
I reread the graphic novel over the weekend and I was never comfortable at the complete swipe at "Architects of Fear" it took, it's so long and convoluted, I couldn't imagine it being shown on the screen. I think the new approach is far more tangible and scarier.Places to find PlaidStallions online: https://linktr.ee/Plaidstallions
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Did anyone else think the new ending worked better?
I reread the graphic novel over the weekend and I was never comfortable at the complete swipe at "Architects of Fear" it took, it's so long and convoluted, I couldn't imagine it being shown on the screen. I think the new approach is far more tangible and scarier.
You know, I have been pondering that over and over, but I came to realize, that in the book, it only happened one place, but in the movie it happened ALL OVER. There were alot more eggs for the omlet in a manner of speaking.
Yeah, that's a damn site scarier. Plus, my boy was the one who got the bag.
Again, more tragic, yet another reason why I love him.
But Veidt was a dissapointment to me. He needed to be older, and more fix.
He just seemed too young to me.
Other than that, I really can't complain about the movie, and for the people who gave Jon crap for being nekkid, here's a thought for you to chew on, if you were omnipotent, would you care about something as insignificant as clothes? In fact, I would make parts of me bigger, just to mess with people.sigpic
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