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  • thunderbolt
    Hi Ernie!!!
    • Feb 15, 2004
    • 34211

    #16
    ^^ Maybe the wizard Shazam is trapped in her somewhere? Maybe Morrison was helping set up Ordway's de-revamping of the Marvels.
    You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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    • Earth 2 Chris
      Verbose Member
      • Mar 7, 2004
      • 32981

      #17
      When will DC learn to not give Winnick the keys to their best cars? Give him the Pinto in the back of the garage. If he trashes that, who cares.

      Fixing Billy, Mary and Freddy would be great, esp. under the Ordster. If they do a new monthly, I hope he handles writing and pencils.

      Chris
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      • Riffster
        Atomic batteries to power
        • Jun 29, 2008
        • 2487

        #18
        my favorite Mary Marvel moment was when she kicked Cap Atoms butt in that miniseries
        Looking for Infinite Heroes Robin and Catwoman
        And Super Powers Batman

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        • aquatroy
          Permanent Member
          • Apr 28, 2002
          • 3289

          #19
          Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
          When will DC learn to not give Winnick the keys to their best cars? Give him the Pinto in the back of the garage. If he trashes that, who cares.

          Fixing Billy, Mary and Freddy would be great, esp. under the Ordster. If they do a new monthly, I hope he handles writing and pencils.

          Chris
          I get the feeling that DC considers the Marvels to be a Pinto out behind the garage.
          Hey! Check out the pictures.

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          • The Toyroom
            The Packaging King
            • Dec 31, 2004
            • 16653

            #20
            According to Dan DiDio, one of the reason's behind Winnick's "The Trials of Shazam" was to official christen Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) "Shazam!" since that's how he's often identified anyway. Such a STOOPID idea for jostling everyone's position around in the Marvel Family...
            Last edited by The Toyroom; Dec 15, '08, 7:16 PM.
            Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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            • aquatroy
              Permanent Member
              • Apr 28, 2002
              • 3289

              #21
              Originally posted by The Toyroom
              According to Dan DiDio, one of the reason's behind Winnick's "The Trials of Shazam" was to official christen Capatin Marvel (Billy Batson) "Shazam!" since that's how he's often identified anyway. Such a STOOPID idea for jostling everyone's position around in the Marvel Family...
              Billy took the name Marvel. Which means his name couldn't appear on the cover of a DC comic.
              Freddy took the name Shazam. Which is also his magic word. So, Freddy still can't tell people who he is without calling down the lightning.
              Mary ... um ... I guess Giffen finally got the joke he always wanted to tell.
              Hey! Check out the pictures.

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              • The Toyroom
                The Packaging King
                • Dec 31, 2004
                • 16653

                #22
                Thanks for clarifying...I knew that DiDio wanted the main character (now Freddy) to be called "Shazam", I just thought it was Billy. I didn't want to go anywhere near that Winnick crap.
                Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                • The Toyroom
                  The Packaging King
                  • Dec 31, 2004
                  • 16653

                  #23
                  Looks like Mary still has some badgirl left in her before Ordway takes over...from "JSA" #25:



                  At least she got rid of that HORRIBLE outfit from "Final Crisis".
                  Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                  • Riffster
                    Atomic batteries to power
                    • Jun 29, 2008
                    • 2487

                    #24
                    but why is Isis bad? cuase she was killed by evil apocalypse monsters?
                    Looking for Infinite Heroes Robin and Catwoman
                    And Super Powers Batman

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                    • The Toyroom
                      The Packaging King
                      • Dec 31, 2004
                      • 16653

                      #25
                      Not sure she IS Bad...she actually looks a little stand-offish in that pic
                      Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                      • jemboy2004
                        Persistent Member
                        • Aug 14, 2005
                        • 1703

                        #26
                        Well the outfit is much improved on Mary there. I'll have to check this out for sure.

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                        • saildog
                          Permanent Member
                          • Apr 9, 2006
                          • 2270

                          #27
                          I see London.
                          I see France.

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                          • The Toyroom
                            The Packaging King
                            • Dec 31, 2004
                            • 16653

                            #28
                            That covers a homage to her first appearance:

                            Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!

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                            • aquatroy
                              Permanent Member
                              • Apr 28, 2002
                              • 3289

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jemboy2004
                              Well the outfit is much improved on Mary there. I'll have to check this out for sure.
                              Mary first sported that outfit in Countdown. I bailed on Countdown about a quarter of the way in. Did she finish the series in that outfit or did she start going baby doll\punk at the end of Countdown?
                              Hey! Check out the pictures.

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                              • aquatroy
                                Permanent Member
                                • Apr 28, 2002
                                • 3289

                                #30
                                Originally posted by The Toyroom
                                Looks like Mary still has some badgirl left in her before Ordway takes over...from "JSA" #25:

                                If I'm remembering correctly, Mary is now powered by the pantheon that gives Black Adam his abilities. I believe this happened early on in Countdown. Those that read 52 and WWIII will recall that that particular pantheon is a rather hard core group. When Black Adam was going on his Kill all Bailyans rampage, Captain Marvel spoke to Adam's pantheon in hopes that they would remove their powers from Adam. They declined telling Cap that they didn't have a problem with how Adam was acting out.

                                At least she got rid of that HORRIBLE outfit from "Final Crisis".
                                I should look it up, but is that an Alex Ross cover? It looks like Ross and yet it's not as tight as his usual work. If it is Ross, then I'm surprised he painted the cover at all. What with his disdain for everything past 1989. Which could explain why the cover isn't up to his usual standards.
                                Hey! Check out the pictures.

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