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  • LonnieFisher
    Eloquent Member
    • Jan 19, 2008
    • 10917

    blow mold casting

    Does anybody know if it's possible to do blow molding at home? I'd like to try it but haven't got a clue how to do it.
  • AAAAA
    Permanent Member
    • Oct 28, 2005
    • 2505

    #2
    what you need is a 2 part mold, and thick wall bottle like plastic Called a" Blank".
    You need to evenly heat the Blank until it almost in a Fluid like state than place it in the 2 part mold & close it.
    (The mold should be warm to hot)
    You need an air compressor to pump hot air into the blank. this would allow it to expand in to the mold.
    the thickness on the item depends on the thickness of the blank .
    Last edited by AAAAA; Apr 27, '11, 12:49 PM.

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    • AAAAA
      Permanent Member
      • Oct 28, 2005
      • 2505

      #3
      here's

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR0gMKN58kY

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ztl0i6rgyY

      This is not blow molding but table draping Or reverse vac u forming
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfShSGcFgos
      Last edited by AAAAA; Apr 27, '11, 1:18 PM.

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      • TrueDave
        Toy Maker
        • Jan 12, 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        My teeny airbrush compressers have been loaned out

        Would canned air work ?

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        • AAAAA
          Permanent Member
          • Oct 28, 2005
          • 2505

          #5
          not enough pressure from both. depending on the thickness of the blank and the size of the mold
          you would need 50 to 100 pounds as bear minimum. pounds of pressure .
          Last edited by AAAAA; Apr 27, '11, 2:18 PM.

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          • ThatBatmanGuy
            Career Member
            • May 14, 2007
            • 594

            #6
            ^^ Also a mold that can withstand that type of pressure. Not really a do it yourself hobbist craft.
            Bob

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            • LonnieFisher
              Eloquent Member
              • Jan 19, 2008
              • 10917

              #7
              I'd like to make blow molded body parts like Mego did. My Hulk parts would be awesome being blow molded.

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              • LonnieFisher
                Eloquent Member
                • Jan 19, 2008
                • 10917

                #8
                Originally posted by ThatBatmanGuy
                ^^ Also a mold that can withstand that type of pressure. Not really a do it yourself hobbist craft.
                Bob
                A resin mold could stand that much pressure. Or even plaster. A silicone mold with a support shell would probably work, too.

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                • drzaius1
                  Residident of Camp Eleven
                  • Aug 25, 2010
                  • 86

                  #9
                  I happen to be a blow molder. Not toys though, I make bottles.
                  It would be difficult to do this at home. You would be better off with a simple rotational molding set up. You would need a two part mold that would withstand enough heat to melt the small amount of plastic beads. You could then preheat the plastic to molten consistency and then put it in the heated mold. You would close the two mold halves and rotate the mold continually until the plastic has covered the entire internal old surface. The mold would also need to be really hot too. We run our machines at 340 defgrees F but I'm not sure what you would need for a small amount of plastic over a longer period of time. You would continue rotating the mold until it cools. Do not rotate too quickly or shake it or you will get bubbles in your walls of the form. After it cools carefully pop it open and cut off any flash you don't want. You should probably coat the molds with some sort of release agent such as silicone spray, prior to filling the mold. You only need enough plastic to form the desired thickness of the parts walls. This will produce a hollow part similar to a chocolate easter bunny.


                  Take care.
                  Last edited by drzaius1; Apr 27, '11, 5:08 PM.
                  Domo Arigato, Mr. Mugato
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                  • LonnieFisher
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Jan 19, 2008
                    • 10917

                    #10
                    Originally posted by drzaius1
                    I happen to be a blow molder. Not toys though, I make bottles.
                    It would be difficult to do this at home. You would be better off with a simple rotational molding set up. You would need a two part mold that would withstand enough heat to melt the small amount of plastic beads. You could then preheat the plastic to molten consistency and then put it in the heated mold. You would close the two mold halves and rotate the mold continually until the plastic has covered the entire internal old surface. The mold would also need to be really hot too. We run our machines at 340 defgrees F but I'm not sure what you would need for a small amount of plastic over a longer period of time. You would continue rotating the mold until it cools. Do not rotate too quickly or shake it or you will get bubbles in your walls of the form. After it cools carefully pop it open and cut off any flash you don't want. You should probably coat the molds with some sort of release agent such as silicone spray, prior to filling the mold. You only need enough plastic to form the desired thickness of the parts walls. This will produce a hollow part similar to a chocolate easter bunny.


                    Take care.
                    Thanks for the advice. I do already rotationally cast parts using a two part liquid resin. The parts I want to blow mold don't roto-cast very well, but that's probably how I'll end up doing it. I'd just love to be able to cast all things in all ways. I wish I had a mini, home-style plastic injection set-up!

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                    • AAAAA
                      Permanent Member
                      • Oct 28, 2005
                      • 2505

                      #11
                      an mold to take that kind of punishment either blow molding or roto casting, need to made out of aluminum alloy at the very lest.
                      and a powered spinner would hepl in rotocasting.

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                      • ThatBatmanGuy
                        Career Member
                        • May 14, 2007
                        • 594

                        #12
                        ^^ Exactly what I was talking about. A resin nor plaster mold would NOT hold up to that type of punishment. This type of production is more on the industrial level. Also, don't think we are trying to put you down Lonnie. Just trying to be helpful.
                        Bob

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                        • livnxxxl
                          Megoholic RocketScientist
                          • Oct 23, 2007
                          • 3903

                          #13
                          Doesn't melting plastic put out a potentially harmful putrid smell? I am looking at this from a personal level. I know big business has ways to deal with the harmful fumes (smell) better than a person doing it at home.

                          I have been wanting to cast using melted plastic to. I just want to make sure that I go about it safely and intelligently. I have some of those low melt plastic beads although I have yet to try them.
                          Enjoy what you like, and let others enjoy what they like. (C) Azrak 2009

                          Too much space. Need more toys!



                          Check out the ever growing Mego like sized vehicles data base.

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                          • AAAAA
                            Permanent Member
                            • Oct 28, 2005
                            • 2505

                            #14
                            Originally posted by livnxxxl
                            Doesn't melting plastic put out a potentially harmful putrid smell? I am looking at this from a personal level. I know big business has ways to deal with the harmful fumes (smell) better than a person doing it at home.

                            I have been wanting to cast using melted plastic to. I just want to make sure that I go about it safely and intelligently. I have some of those low melt plastic beads although I have yet to try them.
                            Yeah In a work shop with ventilation exhaust fans system ,
                            not good in the house.

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                            • TrueDave
                              Toy Maker
                              • Jan 12, 2008
                              • 2343

                              #15
                              I originally wanted to get into plastics because sculpture made from Bronze wood and stone is just too heavy.


                              I had a Art teacher tell me he took a job in a plastic factory to learn how to do this stuff. Only worked there a month or two to get the hang of it.
                              Last edited by TrueDave; Apr 27, '11, 9:13 PM.

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