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  • Bizarro Amy
    Formerly known as Del
    • Dec 12, 2004
    • 3336

    Zubber?

    Another thread mentioned Zubber as a material for making molds, as opposed to brush-on latex or silicone. Is is similar to either of these materials? How do you apply it to the piece you're casting? Any mold release? I'm curious about how useful this stuff may be, especially if it's easier to find in stores that silicone or cheaper. Has anyone used it to make flexible accessories?
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  • mazinz
    Persistent Member
    • Jul 2, 2007
    • 2249

    #2
    you might want to read this thread about zubber:

    Has anyone else experimented with this product yet? I was taking my regular tour at a Wally's and ran across this stuff in the toy aisle. It appears to be new as I have never seen it or heard of it before. According to the package one can mix the non toxic two part dough like material and in minutes the dough will turn into


    I was playing around with this stuff because I wanted to create those 1970's style dinosaurs. ZUbber is like silly putty but a little greasier. However what I was finding also is that if you use enough of this stuff it works great for casting a mold, since it hardens to essentially a real rubber that you can then cut the mold to release the clay (or whatever) material on the inside.


    I used zubber for the mold in my posting about resin and it's fumes, and I used zubber to cast a mold for the Tricephalon monster which is from the Godzilla vs Tricephalon monster playset (1979). Zubber did not seem to stick to the plastic at all and I was able to remove the toy while getting the toy's detail imprinted on the zubber.

    Pretty much you just "mush" the zubber around whatever you need and let it dry.

    I even used the stuff on slightly wet scuplty and it still worked (and this was the mold used in my resin posting), though a few tiny pieces stuck to the zubber. However in that case it was more of a wet scupty issue than zubber (the scuplty monster i made had plaster on him with too much water sitting for one day). I drained all of the water out and was able to salvage the sculpty creation (not cooked) from the plaster (but the sculpty was far from the good strength it had been before I tried a plaster mold first). So in that case the zubber was not too blame and for what detail was left on the sculpty mold, zubber picked it up and I was able to remove this from the zubber without a problem

    pretty much zubber is cheap enough if you want to run a test with it. Zubber also seems to work with a 1:1 mix of equal parts (zubber and activator).


    depending on what you need you could use zubber to make an accessory or even a joint between two limbs. I would have killed for rubber material like this back in the 70's and early 80's when i was much younger. it is NOT like creepy crawlers, this stuff forms literally a true rubber (but moveable) material.

    painting it is another story. I went to Sherman paints and I told them about zubber and they gave me a small can of "adhesion primer" (latex base) which they said should stick to the zubber so it can be painted (since most of everything else I tried either peeled off or did not stick to it).
    Last edited by mazinz; Jan 22, '10, 9:04 AM.
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    • mazinz
      Persistent Member
      • Jul 2, 2007
      • 2249

      #3
      I can happily report that liquid latex (castin calls it their "mold maker") does stick to zubber which is great if you use this stuff as a mold that you have to slice open for whatever reason
      "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

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      • rche
        channeling Bob Wills
        • Mar 26, 2008
        • 7391

        #4
        where do you all pick this Zubber stuff up from?

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        • LonnieFisher
          Eloquent Member
          • Jan 19, 2008
          • 11012

          #5
          Wal-mart

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          • rche
            channeling Bob Wills
            • Mar 26, 2008
            • 7391

            #6
            found some on the clearance isle in the WM. Not too many of them left. Apparently not a big seller. $3 for the refill pack. I grabbed a couple and some bug molds.

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            • Tothiro
              Kitten Mittens
              • Aug 28, 2008
              • 1342

              #7
              So it dries to semi-rigid?
              Never used it so let me pose the question ... if one were to make a soft clay sculpt of a boot (as an example) and then pour a two part push mold in hard resin (instead of mold material) around the original, might one then use these resin halves to hand press a thin layer of zubber in and then join them to yield rubberized boots after curing?

              I sometimes inadvertently kill a conversation with questions - it's an unwelcome skill. But really does this sound feasible?
              (thinking tall knee boots with weird detail like a Skywalker, or flared parts like Wolverine or such)
              ... it comes in a variety of colors I presume?
              Last edited by Tothiro; May 11, '10, 12:02 AM.

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              • rche
                channeling Bob Wills
                • Mar 26, 2008
                • 7391

                #8
                It does come in a variety of colors. I haven't gotten the chance to experiment yet. I am planning on making a couple of simple items in the next few days. I'll let you know how it goes.

                If you find some at your local wm, the regular price on the refill packs was something like 7 bucks, so it isn't to pricey to experiment with, tho there is not a whole heck of a lot of the compound in the pack. Something like 1.5 - 2 oz.

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                • Tothiro
                  Kitten Mittens
                  • Aug 28, 2008
                  • 1342

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rche
                  It does come in a variety of colors. I haven't gotten the chance to experiment yet. I am planning on making a couple of simple items in the next few days. I'll let you know how it goes.
                  Sweeeeet.

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                  • rche
                    channeling Bob Wills
                    • Mar 26, 2008
                    • 7391

                    #10
                    Ok Rob,

                    Zubber seems to be a slightly more viscous version of the 2 part putty style molding compound. It is quite greasy/oily when mixing together and, although it does cure to a solid, it is also a bit greasy and is very flexible.

                    There are several different colors out there. I have a blue, orange, and fuchsia pack. I made a rubber stopper for a kids bank that is going to get used, so we will see how durable it is as I am sure it will be popped in and out of the bank a gabazillion times.

                    Although it is more viscous than, say silly putty, when it is in the mix stage, I am not sure that this stuff is pourable into a mold. It may be able to be pressed in if you have a pressure or syringe system? It remains fluid for about 5 minutes before the curing process begins to hold it steady.

                    If you wanted to do a boot in halves, I am not sure how you would put them together. It would also need to be rather thick in order to have any rigidity.

                    It would be interesting to cast a head with this and see what it looked like. As I stated earlier, it is rather oily stuff. Not sure how well it will hold paint.

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                    • mazinz
                      Persistent Member
                      • Jul 2, 2007
                      • 2249

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rche
                      Ok Rob,

                      Zubber seems to be a slightly more viscous version of the 2 part putty style molding compound. It is quite greasy/oily when mixing together and, although it does cure to a solid, it is also a bit greasy and is very flexible.

                      There are several different colors out there. I have a blue, orange, and fuchsia pack. I made a rubber stopper for a kids bank that is going to get used, so we will see how durable it is as I am sure it will be popped in and out of the bank a gabazillion times.

                      Although it is more viscous than, say silly putty, when it is in the mix stage, I am not sure that this stuff is pourable into a mold. It may be able to be pressed in if you have a pressure or syringe system? It remains fluid for about 5 minutes before the curing process begins to hold it steady.

                      If you wanted to do a boot in halves, I am not sure how you would put them together. It would also need to be rather thick in order to have any rigidity.

                      It would be interesting to cast a head with this and see what it looked like. As I stated earlier, it is rather oily stuff. Not sure how well it will hold paint.
                      from my old post- go to page 2 to see how it looks when pushed into a mold for a head.
                      http://megomuseum.com/community/show...ghlight=zubber
                      "What motivated him to throw a puppy at the Hells Angels is currently unclear,"

                      Starroid Raiders Dagon wrote "No Dime Store Monster left behind"

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