The Amazing Spider-Man site launches...

[emeraldknight47]

...and it doesn't make me feel ANY better about the reboot whatsoever!

Here's some "official" descriptions from the newly-born website...

The Story
Like most teenagers his age, Peter is trying to figure out who he is and how he to be the person he is today. In his journey to put the pieces of his past together he uncovers a secret that his father held... a secret that will ultimately shape his destiny as Spider-Man. This is the first in a series of movies that tells a different side of the Peter Parker story. On July 3rd, 2012, the untold story begins.

Peter Parker
Ever since Peter's parents disappeared 13 years ago, he has struggled to find his purpose in life. Now, on the brink of unlocking the mystery about what happened to them, he must face the ultimate challenge - one that has been created within the laboratories of Oscorp.

Gwen Stacy
Smart, charismatic and rebellious, Gwen is the chief intern at Oscorp, a position she takes very seriously. But her life takes a complicated turn as she watches both her boyfriend, Peter, and her mentor, Dr. Connors, undergo radical transformations.

Captain Stacy
An esteemed police officer for over twenty years, Captain Stacy is the public face of the NYPD who leads the department's investigation into Spider-Man's vigilantism. The only thing Captain Stacy vows to protect more than the city is his family - and particularly his only daughter, Gwen.

Dr. Curt Connors
One of the leading scientific minds, Dr. Connors attempts to engineer a revolutionary regeneration serum to help re-grow limbs and human tissue. His motivations are unclear as to why he elects to be the first human test subject - but what becomes evident is that something goes horribly wrong.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves me properly, it's long been established in the funny books that Parker's parents were actually SHIELD agents, so unless they're going to cross this universe over with the other MU (the one inhabited by IRON MAN, THOR, etc.), then they're going to have to *******ize that part of the story by having them work for someone else (either someone or some entity connected to OsCorp or some government agency like the CIA, FBI, etc.) Either way, my feelings towards it are totally meh.

Sounds like they've decided to make Gwen a COMPLETELY different character than she was in the books, aside from being Captain Stacy's daughter. OsCorp seems to still be the looming entity in the entire movie mythology, seeings as how both Gwen AND Curt Connors work there. And, from the looks of the trailer, it looks like Pete owes his spider powers to a mishap at the OsCorp labs, too. Oh, joy! It's Jack Napier killing Bruce Wayne's parent's all over again!!!

From the description of Captain Stacy, sounds like they are trying to turn him into the Commissioner Gordon of the Spider-Man franchise. There could be worse roles models, I suppose, but Gordon and Stacy were two cops cut from completely different fabrics and to try to force one into the mold of the other seems off-putting.

Finally, the elephant in the room: OsCorp. Since we can determine from the website that this is destined to be a trilogy (unless this thing tanks (fingers crossed) so badly that SONY bails on that idea), so we can almost bet that, likely in the third and climactic film, we'll see a redo of The Green Goblin, something I dread with this current breed of Spider-Man. If people thought that the Power Ranger GG was bad, what do think a Twilighted GG is gonna be like....? Heck, he might even be sparkly, too!

OK. Last two pieces on my rant, I promise. One of the still shots from the website is this one...

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/wallasm001.jpg

...which looks a lot like one of the posters from Spider-Man 2. Way to go a far as originality, Sony!

The other still shot is this one....

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/newsm004.jpg

Now, can someone please, please, please tell me how the hell the man is supposed to stick to walls when he's got----stuff on the bottoms of his feet. Looks ridiculous. I think I will take MIB41 on his offer and boycott this sucker. Maybe permanently.

What do you guys think.....?

[kingdom warrior]

The Amazing Spider-Man - Official Site (http://www.theamazingspiderman.com/)

[boynightwing]

I'm going to wait to actually see the movie before I dismiss it as garbage.

[Toy Talk]

When the first Twilight came out I watched it, and it was a horrible travesty of film. However, I would not have known how much I disliked the concept until I gave it a shot. New generations have new ideas and new trends; not everything new is bad. I am willing to give it a shot and then pass my judgement. Who knows, maybe I will like it.

[emeraldknight47]

Sorry, gang, don't know why my image links aren't working! That is SO harshing my mellow.....!

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

Yeah; I can see reserving judgement until actually seeing the film.... but I can also understand being wary based on these bits. From the description it looks like, well.... everything else. The changes aren't HUGE.... but they're there. The story sounds like the last SpiderMan cartoon, which is a mixed thing. My biggest gripe is having to sit through the origin and background AGAIN. That, and I hate when they start twisting all the background bits of an established franchaise together, it makes the universe seem really, really small. (So.... OsCorp is behind EVERYTHING in the SpiderMan setting now? The Marvel universe used to be absolutely riddled with corporations, mad scientists and secret organizations!)

Don C.

[Timothy2251]

Think I'll wait for this to hit cable in about a year and a half or so.

[MIB41]

I understand the need for some to give this a chance. And of course seeing is knowing. But Spider-man is such a dear and personal hero to me, that seeing them flub what was already a great series has left me less than excited for this nonsense. I think Sony overreacted and threw the baby out with the bath water after part 3. People loved that cast. They just needed a better story and probably a new director. What they've done here is completely unwarranted and I think the interest in the new film reflects that. Nationwide polls show the reboot barely tracking against similar films in it's own genre for next summer. There's a good reason for that. This is a mistake. This doesn't look or feel like Spider-man. It looks like a funky Japanese version with the rubber Ultraman suit and stripes. And Gwen Stacy is now a brilliant scientist. REALLY? It just smells. So yes. For opening weekend, I will pass and let others go and buy that ticket for what I feel will be an utter piece of garbage. Bling garbage that is...:wink_y:

[Jerry68]

It seems like they put a lot of the ultimate story line in this?

[emeraldknight47]

I understand the need for some to give this a chance. And of course seeing is knowing. But Spider-man is such a dear and personal hero to me, that seeing them flub what was already a great series has left me less than excited for this nonsense. I think Sony overreacted and threw the baby out with the bath water after part 3. People loved that cast. They just needed a better story and probably a new director. What they've done here is completely unwarranted and I think the interest in the new film reflects that. Nationwide polls show the reboot barely tracking against similar films in it's own genre for next summer. There's a good reason for that. This is a mistake. This doesn't look or feel like Spider-man. It looks like a funky Japanese version with the rubber Ultraman suit and stripes. And Gwen Stacy is now a brilliant scientist. REALLY? It just smells. So yes. For opening weekend, I will pass and let others go and buy that ticket for what I feel will be an utter piece of garbage. Bling garbage that is...:wink_y:

Amen, brutha! I'll be right there in line beside you seeing whatever opens opposite this in order to prove a point to SONY and Marvel not to screw with the Spider, man!!! :grin:

[kingdom warrior]

Eh......the first movie wasn't accurate either but I lived with it. this one I'll wait for reviews but still will go see it, why not it's spidey.

I'll never get the Spidey movie I want because executives just won't do it. they have way too much invested.

For me a Spidey movie is a REAL teenage cast, a 16 year old playing Peter not a 20 year old that looks like a chicken hawk from a porn movie. He'd have Ditko's Fooked up costume...I want the kid to grow in the part like the harry Porker kid did in his movies.....

and I'd have every movie start with a villian that can't Carry a movie but is good for a opening fight scene like how Bond movies start...........

[80stoyman]

I'll give the movie a chance... I think anything can be better than Tobey Mcguire and Kirsten Dunst.

[Operation:Mego]

...and it doesn't make me feel ANY better about the reboot whatsoever!

Here's some "official" descriptions from the newly-born website...

The Story
Like most teenagers his age, Peter is trying to figure out who he is and how he to be the person he is today. In his journey to put the pieces of his past together he uncovers a secret that his father held... a secret that will ultimately shape his destiny as Spider-Man. This is the first in a series of movies that tells a different side of the Peter Parker story. On July 3rd, 2012, the untold story begins.

Peter Parker
Ever since Peter's parents disappeared 13 years ago, he has struggled to find his purpose in life. Now, on the brink of unlocking the mystery about what happened to them, he must face the ultimate challenge - one that has been created within the laboratories of Oscorp.

Gwen Stacy
Smart, charismatic and rebellious, Gwen is the chief intern at Oscorp, a position she takes very seriously. But her life takes a complicated turn as she watches both her boyfriend, Peter, and her mentor, Dr. Connors, undergo radical transformations.

Captain Stacy
An esteemed police officer for over twenty years, Captain Stacy is the public face of the NYPD who leads the department's investigation into Spider-Man's vigilantism. The only thing Captain Stacy vows to protect more than the city is his family - and particularly his only daughter, Gwen.

Dr. Curt Connors
One of the leading scientific minds, Dr. Connors attempts to engineer a revolutionary regeneration serum to help re-grow limbs and human tissue. His motivations are unclear as to why he elects to be the first human test subject - but what becomes evident is that something goes horribly wrong.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves me properly, it's long been established in the funny books that Parker's parents were actually SHIELD agents, so unless they're going to cross this universe over with the other MU (the one inhabited by IRON MAN, THOR, etc.), then they're going to have to *******ize that part of the story by having them work for someone else (either someone or some entity connected to OsCorp or some government agency like the CIA, FBI, etc.) Either way, my feelings towards it are totally meh.

Sounds like they've decided to make Gwen a COMPLETELY different character than she was in the books, aside from being Captain Stacy's daughter. OsCorp seems to still be the looming entity in the entire movie mythology, seeings as how both Gwen AND Curt Connors work there. And, from the looks of the trailer, it looks like Pete owes his spider powers to a mishap at the OsCorp labs, too. Oh, joy! It's Jack Napier killing Bruce Wayne's parent's all over again!!!

From the description of Captain Stacy, sounds like they are trying to turn him into the Commissioner Gordon of the Spider-Man franchise. There could be worse roles models, I suppose, but Gordon and Stacy were two cops cut from completely different fabrics and to try to force one into the mold of the other seems off-putting.

Finally, the elephant in the room: OsCorp. Since we can determine from the website that this is destined to be a trilogy (unless this thing tanks (fingers crossed) so badly that SONY bails on that idea), so we can almost bet that, likely in the third and climactic film, we'll see a redo of The Green Goblin, something I dread with this current breed of Spider-Man. If people thought that the Power Ranger GG was bad, what do think a Twilighted GG is gonna be like....? Heck, he might even be sparkly, too!

OK. Last two pieces on my rant, I promise. One of the still shots from the website is this one...

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/wallasm001.jpg

...which looks a lot like one of the posters from Spider-Man 2. Way to go a far as originality, Sony!

The other still shot is this one....

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/newsm004.jpg

Now, can someone please, please, please tell me how the hell the man is supposed to stick to walls when he's got----stuff on the bottoms of his feet. Looks ridiculous. I think I will take MIB41 on his offer and boycott this sucker. Maybe permanently.

What do you guys think.....?

That's the thing that worries me. That makes it sounds like he has both of his arms in this movie. "His motivaions are unclear -" Just the way it's worded, at least to me anyway.

[Operation:Mego]

I understand the need for some to give this a chance. And of course seeing is knowing. But Spider-man is such a dear and personal hero to me, that seeing them flub what was already a great series has left me less than excited for this nonsense. I think Sony overreacted and threw the baby out with the bath water after part 3. People loved that cast. They just needed a better story and probably a new director. What they've done here is completely unwarranted and I think the interest in the new film reflects that. Nationwide polls show the reboot barely tracking against similar films in it's own genre for next summer. There's a good reason for that. This is a mistake. This doesn't look or feel like Spider-man. It looks like a funky Japanese version with the rubber Ultraman suit and stripes. And Gwen Stacy is now a brilliant scientist. REALLY? It just smells. So yes. For opening weekend, I will pass and let others go and buy that ticket for what I feel will be an utter piece of garbage. Bling garbage that is...:wink_y:

Well that's not too far fetched. As far as I can remember, she's never been dumb, and has shown her intelligence more than once in the comics before. Plus, Gwen's a scientist in TSSM and they didn't make her overly smart.

[Bruce Banner]

This shot is certainly more traditional Spidey as far as his pose is concerned, and it makes me feel a little more hope that it might be a good movie.
Also, the revamped suit is bugging me somewhat less now (with the exception of one or two major points).
But I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the movie.

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[Keeler]

For all of it’s perceived faults that we as “traditional” Spider-Man fans will point to, I have little doubt this movie will make money hand over fist. It is still Spider-Man, albeit an altered take and it still boasts two of the hottest up and coming stars in Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. (Not to mention a tremendous talent in Dennis Leary who will chew on scenes himself) I also feel the “Twilight” comparisons are a reach.

The costume likely should have been left alone but they didn’t stray too far, and the eyes on the mask look much better than they did on the Raimi suit.

Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman are characters that will endure time much like Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood and others. And with that they will (and must) be re-invented again and again.

This is a perfect example of that aspect.

[emeraldknight47]

OK. I know there are those of you out on the boards who are more than willing to say "We'll give this movie the benefit of the doubt until we see it", but the MORE I see of it, the less of a benefit of a doubt I'm willing to give it!!! I just saw some shots that were in EMPIRE magazine posted over on Cosmic Book News from TAS-M and all I can say is: MEH. The shot, I think, that disturbs the me the most (and by disturbs, I guess I should say perturbs) is the profile shot of Spidey and a thug (Uncle Ben's killer[?]). He face is way too flat. I know this may sound nitpicky, but Spidey has always had a very pronounced profile, no matter what his incarnation. In the Raimi movies, they accomplished this with a shell inside the mask. I have no idea what's going on with this take.

Plus, I STILL hate the lack of a true "web" pattern on the mask (it's more a series of geometric, intersecting lines) and, as a huge fan of the Romita-era Spidey, I HATE the way the new eyes on the mask look!! For one thing, they are waaaaay to small and why the heck are they gold? I'm sure they'll explain this away in the movie as the lenses being polarized so Spidey doesn't get blinded by the sun whilst swinging around [or by any sparkly vampires he may encounter since he appears to be in a very Twilighty world---sorry, couldn't resist].

The more I see of this incarnation of Spider-Man, the more he's starting to look like the manga or Japanese version of a live action Spider-Man and, while that may be cool to the people of Japan, it ain't so cool to me...

And, if the cover of EMPIRE is any indication, it looks like this incarnation of Spider-Man isn't going to spend any more time under the mask than his predecessor did, taking it off for any reason, just so we can see the star's face underneath. I think if an actor signs on to play Spider-Man, they need to come to an understanding that, when they're in the costume, the mask needs to stay on as much as possible. From the looks of the recent AVENGERS posters and photos I've been seeing, it looks like Cap and Iron Man spend a good portion of the show without their masks and helmets, too.

I dunno, maybe I'm just too damn picky....

[samurainoir]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves me properly, it's long been established in the funny books that Parker's parents were actually SHIELD agents, so unless they're going to cross this universe over with the other MU (the one inhabited by IRON MAN, THOR, etc.), then they're going to have to *******ize that part of the story by having them work for someone else (either someone or some entity connected to OsCorp or some government agency like the CIA, FBI, etc.) Either way, my feelings towards it are totally meh.

It's based on Ultimate Spiderman, and in my opinion, their storyline there is much more tighter and makes much more sense in the greater arc of Peter Parker as a scientist within the web of government/corporate conspiracy than dragging in the Red Skull and the rest of the Marvel U into an awkward mix.

Essentially the entire subtext of Spidey's greatest villains are the fact that they are surrogate father figures he needs to outgrow in order to become his own man. Lizard, Doc Ock and Green Goblin all fit this model. There is some really interesting stuff in Ultimate Spiderman, although not perfect, involving the Perversions of Richard Parker's scientific work, and makes the evil doppleganger aspect of Venom that much more personal than the alien from outer space.

Although it does dovetail so much better into SHIELD and the Nick Fury relationship in the Ultimates Universe because there was an overarching plan, not because it was a fun twist they thought up one day that had no real endgame in mind. Lest we forget them showing up in the Clone Saga to make a convoluted mess even messier. Which again, is why the clone saga in Ultimate Spiderman actually ended up working so much better than the scattershot approach, when you have a planned storyline and personal character driven moments driving the big plot line rather than a series of marketing driven sales gimmicks.

[MIB41]

It's Marvel's version of the "six degrees of separation." :muh: Is it any wonder Kevin Bacon has now joined in these films? :please_y: Or were the heavens and earth all built by Shield and Nick Fury in seven days? I'm bored to tears with this endless arc of connection between all of these Marvel heroes and FREAKIN' Shield! It's not only boring, but completely unoriginal. It's like Marvel is trying to make their heroes into GI Joe for Christ's sake. Who has the Kung Fu grip? Nothing is that neat in the world and nothing reeks more of bad writing than explaining it all away by saying someone was behind all of this. Well...I take that back. I guess there is "something" behind all this...TOYS!:ugh_y:

[emeraldknight47]

It's Marvel's version of the "six degrees of separation." :muh: Is it any wonder Kevin Bacon has now joined in these films? :please_y: Or were the heavens and earth all built by Shield and Nick Fury in seven days? I'm bored to tears with this endless arc of connection between all of these Marvel heroes and FREAKIN' Shield! It's not only boring, but completely unoriginal. It's like Marvel is trying to make their heroes into GI Joe for Christ's sake. Who has the Kung Fu grip? Nothing is that neat in the world and nothing reeks more of bad writing than explaining it all away by saying someone was behind all of this. Well...I take that back. I guess there is "something: behind all this...TOYS!:ugh_y:

Don't hold it in, brutha. Let us know what you REALLY think! :wink_y:

[MIB41]

^^^... I was actually editing as I typed...:silly: But I think that about sums it up. Tying everyone together takes away any real individuality they all deserve to have.

[kingdom warrior]

I HATE the way the new eyes on the mask look!! For one thing, they are waaaaay to small and why the heck are they gold?



LOL! That's a bit too nit picky my friend. I've hated the fact that artist draw his eyes so friggin big.

I"m one that love the smaller eyes. I think it was artist publisher Greg Theakston who pointed out to me when we were looking at the cover of Amazing Fantasy #15. He said wipe away all your ideas of Spiderman and what you know....and pretend this is the first time you're looking at the cover and what do you see.

I said Knowing the marvel line of comics at the time The Spider-Man looked like one of Kirby's aliens or Monsters books creatures not a teen with problems.

He said exactly the eyes that Kirby and Ditko drew made him look creepy Romita drew spiderman very handsome even with the mask on but kept the eyes right.....

I like the look it is what it is....the story and action still has to sell me.....cause that third spiderman movie left a bad taste in my mouth......

[Earth 2 Chris]

I like Ditko's eyes. As he went along, he developed the black part as fairly large, but the lens was smaller. McFarlane made them HUGE, and everyone else was told to follow, even Romita Sr!!!

Chris

[kingdom warrior]

I like Ditko's eyes. As he went along, he developed the black part as fairly large, but the lens was smaller. McFarlane made them HUGE, and everyone else was told to follow, even Romita Sr!!!

Chris

Also as the book progressed the blacks were removed from the costume for more color and he added more bulk to Spidey's body.....


I have a love hate thing about McFarlane.......he did some great layouts but his anatomy was not to be desired and over inked the **** out of everything and his Mary Jane was Fooking Ugly as all ****.....

I'll Take Romita sr. Mary Jane anyday..........

[emeraldknight47]

I was NOT a fan of the GINORMOUS McFarlane eyes, either. They would be far too impractical as far as any type of protection goes. I like the Romita, Sr/Gil Kane eyes and the Ditko eyes. Unfortunately, the eyes on the new mask look like neither...

[samurainoir]

How are all these interconnected avenger's movies not be a fanboy's dream for us? They ave always tried to tie stuff together even back in Stan and Jack's day. The movies are just doing it much less haphazardly. I mean it makes much more sense for them to go into Iron Man, Captain America, ?hulk and Thor with a planned tie in movie rather than just writing "and they all just happen to run into each other" on the first page of the Avengers script. If fury and SHEILD are the obvious tie in device, I can't see it being a bad thing. They have all been great movies thus far that stand on their own, but in the same way that The Marvel comics we grew up with as kids gets slightly mre awesome when we Are in the know about the way they crossover and te into each other.

Kevin Bacon was a terrific sebastion shaw!
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And honestly if folks aren't reading SHIELD, they are missing out a fun book. It's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen in the Marvel Universe. Sure it reveals SHIELD Is pretty much behind everything in the history of the Marvel U, but then how else to you get awesome fun scenes of Imo Tep fighting the brood as the Captain America of ancient egypt or Galileo fighting Galactus?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wZxyC3BZI4s/S4JaTZ7EBMI/AAAAAAAAAVI/aF_67hPNMUQ/s640/shield+splash.jpg

http://salvatorepane.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/shield.jpg

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And who doesn't love Easter eggs like the original Moon Knight and the x-men villain Apocolyse stuck in there?
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[samurainoir]

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I always thought mcfarlan's was avknck off of art Adams.
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