Green Lantern VS Spider-Man !

[BlackKnight]

Green Lantern
DC
Cosmic Powers
Fly's
Air Craft Pilot
Womenizer
Has is Own Place
High Ranking Officer of the Corps
Member of the JLA

List of Copy Cat Super Hero's ...
Gardner
Rayner
KiloWog
Stewart
& about 100+ Members of the Corps

Foes

Cosmic Power Beings & the Dead ...


Spider-MAN
Marvel
Shoots Webs/ Sticks to Stuff
Swings
Photograhper
Has His Balls in Some Chicks Purse
Lives with His Aunt
No Rank
Member of Some Lame-O Avengers Team

List of Copy Cats

Spider-Woman
Spider Girl
Ben Riley

Foes

Psychotic Loons that Dress Up in Cheap Halloween Costumes

WINNER !!!
Green Lantern. :smiley1:

[thunderbolt]

Oh, brother. Comparing GL to Spidey is apples and oranges. GL's enemies list didn't get de-lame-ified until recently. Before that it was idiots like the Shark, Sonar, Goldface and a certain yellow ringed doppleganger.

[Marvelmania]

Ironman would be a better match up. Maybe even Wonder Man.

[The Toyroom]

Like T-bolt said, it's comparing apples and oranges....

As far as modern reading, Green Lantern is currently much more interesting. Spider-Man just isn't SPIDER-MAN to me anymore.....One More Day/Brand New Day was the last straw.

But a few years ago, when Hal Jordan became a crazy bastiche as Parallax and then became a lame-o as The Spectre, who would have thought the character would have had such a turnaround?

Everything in comics is cyclical....I'm sure Spider-Man will be SPIDER-MAN once again....just not at the moment. :wink_y:

[BlackKnight]

Oh, brother. Comparing GL to Spidey is apples and oranges. GL's enemies list didn't get de-lame-ified until recently. Before that it was idiots like the Shark, Sonar, Goldface and a certain yellow ringed doppleganger.

Ohhh,.. I know... But the Arguement of the Aledgid Awesomeness of Spider-Man over Green Lantern,.. Has come to me Now Twice,.. By 2 Different People. Given everything I know About Green Lantern,.. & Everything I know About Spider-man..., Hands down,.. GL IS King. .. I just wanted to Write it down for those people. :silly:

:smiley1:

[Earth 2 Chris]

I'm a DC guy, and love GL. Love Alan Scott. Love Hal. Love the Corps concept. Big Gil Kane fan. But Spidey is right behind Superman and Batman for greatest and most influential comic character ever, and nowadays, I'd say he is just as popular in the general public as Supes and Bats (maybe even more than Supes).

Chris

[BlackKnight]

^^^^ I agree.
But that in NOOOOOOO Way Means he is/was/now a better comicbook character Idea...., He was just Marketed Better. :wink:

[thunderbolt]

Spidey has been treated better by his publisher. GL has been canned and restarted how many times? Not to mention replaced at least twice(at one point so lame, DC killed him) that I can think of.

[huedell]

It's hard to overcome just the overall popularity of any given character
and just to stand on it's own merits as a character ALONE.

The legacies of BATMAN, SPIDER-MAN etc. are so strong...well...you know...

Anyways, Hal Jordan has a real Tony Stark/Bruce Wayne
"cool guy" thing going for him---except Hal doesn't have the dough---
and in my eyes that makes him even more "cool" in many respects
than Stark/Wayne.

Between Hal's dense history (which isn't as "big-time" as the top guys
but still "strong") and his overall character/powers---there's a real
good chance that a live action feature featuring "Hal" GL could really
hit a home run.

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

Green Lantern: Rendered powerless by yellow paint. Runs on batteries.
Spider Man: Always super strong and agile.

Doesn't seem so cut and dry.

Don C.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Green Lantern: Rendered powerless by yellow paint. Runs on batteries.

HA! My favorite "powerless against yellow" scene of all time was in New Teen Titans #4. The Titans are forced to attack the JLA, and Robin puts his yellow cape over GL's ring hand and kicks him right in the face!

Again, I love GL, but that was priceless!!!

I think Spider-Man's one weakeness is Marvel's inability to publish a good Spidey story in the past 17 or so years.

Chris

[bobbait]

hal GL is just a copy of Alan GL

Spidys an original

[JediJaida]

Something just occurred to me: Since the ring runs on the battery, and needs recharging every 24 hours, why not transform the battery into a ring?

That way, it's ALWAYS charged up!

Or does that make too much sense?

I never understood that weakness for ALL yellow objects; to me that's just a cop-out.

[ctc]

>I never understood that weakness for ALL yellow objects

Super powers work a lot like voodoo. Voodoo is "sympathetic" magic. That is, I can cause an effect on a target by causing a SIMILAR effect on a SIMILAR target. Super powers are based on something that's sort of like something somewhat related. To wit:

-Spiderman gets bit by a radioactive spider, so he gets powers like a spider.
-Green lantern's power is based on green, yellow is a component of green, so it has special power over his abilities.

Ultimately there's no REAL reason to any of it. The theme just kinda pulls it together. Sort of. (Considering how many I've squished over the years, I don't think real spiders have precognitive abilities.)

Don C.

[JPkempo]

Spiderman
3 Block buster films making Millions of $$$

Green Lantern
Strait to DVD cartoon

Win Spiderman

[Megospidey]

there's an old saying:

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. :smiley1::wink_y: Just messing with you BK.

Spiderman is Spiderman. GL is a ring. Without it he's pretty useless. End of argument.

[VintageMike]

Spider-Man is a more intresting character with abetter supporting cast. Hal Jordan may be "cool" but Peter Parker's real-life problems make him easier for a reader to relate too.

[BlackKnight]

Spider-Man is a more intresting character with abetter supporting cast.


You Don't get out Much Huh ?
Maybe When you are 6 reading a comicbook from the 70's,.. I can understand some of the Apeal. ... But we are not talking about that ,.. & Spider-man is Far from a more interesting character,... His story has been told far to much ,.. it has become tiresome.

The Dude lives with his Aunt,.. & runs around life completely consumed by some chick,.... Yeah, more Interesting if your a Psycho .... :googly:

:smiley1:

& Like I stated Before,..
Don't even get me started on that Far Fetched BS that we are Lead to Believe this guy Just Magically showed up one Day,.. & with no Prior experience Sewed that suit Flawless for the 1st time touching a Needle. :sarky: Yeah, right... We alllllll Know who customize,.. what our 1st yr of sewing looked like,.. let alone the 1st suit we sewed. :wink_y:

There is Nothing that can be more interesting in Life than Space,.. Aliens & the Unexplained UnKnown & Questioning of it all.

[thunderbolt]

^^ And of course BK knows all about living in space. :smiley1:

[thunderbolt]

HA! My favorite "powerless against yellow" scene of all time was in New Teen Titans #4. The Titans are forced to attack the JLA, and Robin puts his yellow cape over GL's ring hand and kicks him right in the face!

Again, I love GL, but that was priceless!!!

I think Spider-Man's one weakeness is Marvel's inability to publish a good Spidey story in the past 17 or so years.

Chris

This one's my fave. One of the very few highlights in All Star Batman

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[Timothy2251]

Hell, I like 'em both! Always have! I favor Spidey far more, but in all honesty, both characters have had highs and lows recently.

On a strict power basis, GL would mop the floor with Spidey, likely from a near-Earth orbit if he was so inclined, but that'd be a very dull story. Sort of like knowing that Superman could tear Batman apart in a heartbeat whenever he wanted, but it's more interesting to see Batman get a couple of licks in (I do want to see Superman flex a pinky and send Batman clear across Gotham at least once, just for some payback from all the times he's gotten his keister kicked though).

Besides, the real winner this round is Ryan Reynolds - a new franchise means steady work, lots of cash and likely points on the back-end, and he gets to go home to Scarlet Johansson, whereas we get to argue about which superhero would win in a fight. :googly:

Damn you, Reynolds!!!!

[BlackKnight]

All Green Lantern Would Have to do is Create a Giant Fly Swatter outta His Ring & Smack Spider-man once,.. Like he did in the Toon. End of the Wall Crawler... Nuff said. :wink_y:

[BlackKnight]

^^ And of course BK knows all about living in space. :smiley1:

No,.. I don't,.. but Nore does anybody... The Un-Explained is what Makes it More Interesting.

[thunderbolt]

We really don't know about being bit by a radioactive spider either. :)

[BlackKnight]

^^^ Yeah,.. & He's suppost to still look Human,.. & Not wanna suck everyone from the Inside out ? :smiley1: Nice Idea Stan..... way to go.

[jds1911a1]

I love GL (obvoisly I am patrial to the original) but it's unfair to compare spiderman to GL. The ring is a nearly omnipotent deux ex machinea. It gets changed to meet the desire of the writer to give gl the driver for the story. GL's book has come and gone many times over the years (hence wood weakness became yellow which is now no weakness but rather a weakness in the mind of the wearer - whatever flats the writers boat). GL had lots of lame villians before sinestro became a primary (he used to show up about as often as the JSA did in JLA). I love Hard travelling heroes but that was a taglong after marvel opened the door to address the social issues of the late 60's w xmen and racism

Spiderman was the first superhero to have real problems to correlate his issues with the kids reading it that was genius

[BlackKnight]

Again,...
It was Brought to Me as a Comparison Twice Now.
I didn't bring the Comparison idea to my head,.. it was brought there for me,.. I only posted it here.

Since the 2 Spider-Loons brought the Comparison to me,..
I thought I'd share.

And when you Really Know the Mythos & the Idea of the Green Lantern,.. & then the Idea & Blantent Idiocracy of Stan Lee's Spider-man That is really a Tounge & Cheek Character on Many Levels.... Yes,.. you are right,.. there is No Comparison,... Green Lantern is & really always has had the Ability to be a better comicbook character,... His Marketing was always just put on the back burner,. & Sucked..., next to the Big 2. But Obviously,.. Finally we are seeing what can be done,... If ofcourse, they don't mess up. :wink_y:

[The Sentry]

^^^^ I agree.
But that in NOOOOOOO Way Means he is/was/now a better comicbook character Idea...., He was just Marketed Better. :wink:



Yeah, as you said BK, Spiderman is the "Mickey Mouse" of comics. I mean you see him EVERYWHERE. Whereas GL is clearly the better character with a better story line and history to match.


I have said for years "Make mine Marvel, but it seems unless Pak, Loeb, Straczynski, Millar, or Bruebaker (With the ecception being "Rebirth" thanks for jacking the story up Joe Q.:muh:) is writing I can't seem to enjoy Marvel anymore.


D.C. is bringing out obscure characters both heroic and villian and raising the bar on levels Marvel WISHES it could. The so-called "House of Ideas" has been running out since the 1990's. Hulk has been the only comic I have faithfully kept up with. But if Bendis gets to writing him, oh boy...........

but back to the sub, Johns has really outdid himself with the Blackest Night setup, and Morrison has as well with the Batman and Robin stuff. It's all so fluid now, the time lines match up, and stuff is really getting interresting with GL, Johns sold me on his projects, don't get me started on Spiderman and the follies of what they have done to him...............

Lee Harrah of sector 2814 has spoken. :wink_y:

Hulk and

[The Sentry]

All Green Lantern Would Have to do is Create a Giant Fly Swatter outta His Ring & Smack Spider-man once,.. Like he did in the Toon. End of the Wall Crawler... Nuff said. :wink_y:



God I wished I saw this before I posted what I posted.



Brilliant man, just brilliant!


:smiley1:

[Megospidey]

Again,...
It was Brought to Me as a Comparison Twice Now.
I didn't bring the Comparison idea to my head,.. it was brought there for me,.. I only posted it here.

Since the 2 Spider-Loons brought the Comparison to me,..
I thought I'd share.

Um...no that's not how it started. You asked if anyone was reading Green Lantern these days.

I posted, no, I'm not, but I bet you're not reading any 70's Romita Spiderman either are you?

And then you went into the GL vs. Spiderman rant.

THAT....is how it went down. :silly:

[ctc]

>Don't even get me started on that Far Fetched BS that we are Lead to Believe this guy Just Magically showed up one Day,.. & with no Prior experience Sewed that suit Flawless for the 1st time touching a Needle.

But.... getting a magic ring from a dying alien who's part of an intergalactic police force is LESS far-fetched?

>but Peter Parker's real-life problems make him easier for a reader to relate too.

That was the idea. Marvel started the "heroes with problems" schtick. It was a novel approach that was MEANT to make the characters more.... well, REAL isn't the word.... more empathizable. DC characters were always icons. Due in no small part to their being the superhero prototypes. DC heroes didn't deal with doubt, or the bills, or having to go to the bathroom. They were (and to a degree still ARE) above those sort of things. They're gods. Even a "normal guy" like Batman towers over mortals. (AND the laws of physics.) At the core, this is the difference between both casts of characters. And neither is superior to the other. They're both perfectly valid, and can potentially be incredibly entertaining.

But folks need a "winner;" a dominant idea, the one paragon of the genre. It's cyclic. The dark, gritty, street level hero is kinda overwrought these days, so folks are moving towards the old school larger than life hero. (Having fallen out of fashion for so longit's now novel again.) Which of course means the OTHER type is poo-poo. Eventually they'll get tired of that, seeing it as simplistic no doubt; and the pendulum will swing again....

But I think it's unfair to say one is inherently superior tot he other, or more "realistic." Both the magic alien ring that can do anything but needs batteries AND the guy who gets bit by a radioactive bug gets superstrength and not Leukemia are equally implausible.

>it's unfair to compare spiderman to GL

Only if you don't take into account the superheroism that when two heroes clash, they'll SOMEHOW be overall equal to each other. Thus can Spiderman contribute to a caper with Superman, and Batman kung-fu the Hulk into submission.

Don C.

[The Sentry]

Well said Don!



Still don't see how Batman kicked the Hulk in the gut and got him to breathe in bat gas.
BOLLOCKS!

[BlackKnight]

Um...no that's not how it started. You asked if anyone was reading Green Lantern these days.

I posted, no, I'm not, but I bet you're not reading any 70's Romita Spiderman either are you?



... ahhh,.. Preach,.. That was a Comparison.... , Your "Throwing the Aledgid Awesomeness of Spider-man" into a Topic that Had Absolutely nothing to do with the character to begin with,.. was a Comparison,.. & everything afterwords was more so too.

This is not meant for a Rant,.. of any kind... Just trying to have some Fun & get peoples thoughts on the Subject .. as a VS's thread. & Throw out some Opinions I have about Spider-man in my Posts. :silly:

[BlackKnight]

Still don't see how Batman kicked the Hulk in the gut and got him to breathe in bat gas.


I love Batman,.. But that was a little far fetched too,.. Like the Hulk would even feel him do that. :smiley1:

[BlackKnight]

But.... getting a magic ring from a dying alien who's part of an intergalactic police force is LESS far-fetched?


Ofcourse it's LESS Far Fetched. ,.. It's Space Bro,.. Nobody Know's whats out there,.. in the Unknown. :wink_y:

If I ever get A Ring,.. I'll let you Know. :smiley1:

[Hector]

Spiderman
3 Block buster films making Millions of $$$

Green Lantern
Strait to DVD cartoon

Win Spiderman

Plus the general public all knows Spidey.

Green Lantern is practically unknown to non comic book fans.

[Hector]

Sort of like knowing that Superman could tear Batman apart in a heartbeat whenever he wanted, but it's more interesting to see Batman get a couple of licks in (I do want to see Superman flex a pinky and send Batman clear across Gotham at least once, just for some payback from all the times he's gotten his keister kicked though).

I think I love you...

:heart: :smiley1: :grin:

[Hector]

Well said Don!



Still don't see how Batman kicked the Hulk in the gut and got him to breathe in bat gas.
BOLLOCKS!

I'm telling you...Batman has to be the most overblown/overrated superhero ever...the writers LOVE to exaggerate his accomplishments.

:smiley1:

[The Sentry]

I'm telling you...Batman has to be the most overblown/overrated superhero ever...the writers LOVE to exaggerate his accomplishments.

:smiley1:


AYE HEC! I LOVE Bats too, but there are people out there who thinks he's the second coming of Christ. I love the Hulk but geez, I'll admit defeat when it rears it's head with him. Some Batman fans just won't let it go, God vs Batman? Well no question............Batman. :muh:

[Hulk]

Spidey has beaten back about everything the Marvel Universe has thrown at him. Like Batman, he is too big to be brought down by a second stringer.

[huedell]

Spidey has beaten back about everything the Marvel Universe has thrown at him. Like Batman, he is too big to be brought down by a second stringer.

I hope Hector and Sentry realize that THAT is the reason BATMAN has
become so overblown-----it's not because it actually makes sense---
but it's because he's EARNED it.

Yeah---it's out of hand I guess.
That's not to say I don't get a kick out of it when
DARKSEID comments that BATMAN is the only human who has dodged his
OMEGA BEAMS successfully :grin::cool_y:

[BlackKnight]

Plus the general public all knows Spidey.

Green Lantern is practically unknown to non comic book fans.

Again,...
That IN NOOOOOOOO Way means he is a Better comicbook character...., Only Marketed Better. :wink:

[ctc]

>Spidey has beaten back about everything the Marvel Universe has thrown at him. Like Batman, he is too big to be brought down by a second stringer.

That's ANOTHER superheroism: your overall power level is directly related to your popularity. Same with your build. Superheroes are like rappers in that respect; the more popular they get, the more ripped they get. (remember when the Punisher first appeared, and was kinda skinny....?)

>I love Batman,.. But that was a little far fetched too

He spent Hero Points, and rolled a couple of column shifts....

Don C.

[Hector]

AYE HEC! I LOVE Bats too, but there are people out there who thinks he's the second coming of Christ. I love the Hulk but geez, I'll admit defeat when it rears it's head with him. Some Batman fans just won't let it go, God vs Batman? Well no question............Batman. :muh:

:smiley1: :smiley1: :smiley1:

[Hector]

Spidey has beaten back about everything the Marvel Universe has thrown at him. Like Batman, he is too big to be brought down by a second stringer.

:yes: :yes: :yes:

[Hector]

Again,...
That IN NOOOOOOOO Way means he is a Better comicbook character...., Only Marketed Better. :wink:

Yeah...how exciting...some dude with a stupid green ring...I'm so impressed.

:smiley1:

[BlackKnight]

Yeah...how exciting...some dude with a stupid green ring...I'm so impressed.

:smiley1:


UH HUH. ... This comming from you of all people. I Could see How it all could be so very Over Whelming to you , with the Complexity that Superman Has. :crazy: .. Speaking of Which ,.. Aahhh Don't you have a Superman Thread to go Tend to ? :silly:

[The Sentry]

Man, this thread is about to start a war! Ha ha ha! I love how passionate we are about our comics! :grin:

[Hector]

UH HUH. ... This comming from you of all people. I Could see How it all could be so very Over Whelming to you , with the Complexity that Superman Has. :crazy: .. Speaking of Which ,.. Aahhh Don't you have a Superman Thread to go Tend to ? :silly:

Comparing the great and legendary Superman to your two-bit second string journeyman nobody...is like comparing Mozart to Vanilla Ice...

:smiley1: :smiley1: :smiley1:

[BlackKnight]

You DO Realize that Superman is a Mere Security Guard for His Aunt right now on New Krypton,.. Policing a ton of Kryptonians ,.. who Also have all of his Powers,.. right ?

He is so Interesting and Complex,.. thats all the Powers to be at DC Could figure out to do with him. :smiley1:

[VintageMike]

Here's another one.

Here's another one. Can anyone possibly name more classic GL stories than classic Spidey stories? I don't think so. I never bought into everything being pure marketing although it's a factor. I think in general some characters resonate more with people and thus are given bigger marketing pushes. I actually like Green Lantern by the way. I just think Superman, Batman & Spider-Man have something special to them that set them apart. To a slightly lesser degree The Hulk.

[ctc]

>I just think Superman, Batman & Spider-Man have something special to them that set them apart. To a slightly lesser degree The Hulk.

Ultimately there are only four superheroes, and you've mentioned them! Every other superhero is a permutation of one of these four:

-Superman: the gooder-than-good guy
-Batman: grim agent of justice
-Spider-Man: flippant adventure seeker
-Hulk: reluctant hero

....not that I'm saying everyone else is a ripoff; just that these four are the ultimate templates.

Don C.

[david_b]

I agree with the GL vs Iron Man pair-up..: GL would pulverize Spidey..

With a power ring which could become a steam-roller..?

What are webs going to do against that...? Spider-strength.., maybe, but with GL's space-flight capability..?

I'd agree Spidey's a stronger opponent, but unless he gets in some lucky pre-emptive punches, Hal'll cream him.

As for fame on a side note, yes I'd agree Spiderman's stories have gained a lot of familiarity in our public consciousness, at least for us geeks far and wide, much so than DC characters, arguably more than Bats or Supes. More depth and connectivity in terms of the human spirit, I'd surmise. At times there's been over-exposure, like in the 70s (like Batman in the 60s, Punisher/Wolverine in the 80s..), but that's to be expected.

david_b