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Fuzzysnail
Jun 28, '08, 3:02 PM
Hey David when can I order The Phantom....The Flatt one is on Ebay right now and its got me craving yours....how close will yours be to the one on ebay right now?
D@*n it!!!! I cant wait to see this figure in person...Youve really got me excited. Can You do Flatts Zorro too? I almost cried when I found out he wasn't going to complete that project. (ok I cried but just a little) (ok maybe a little wailing):yes:
BlackKnight
Jun 28, '08, 6:49 PM
I just want some Wolves & some 45's. The Idea of Zorro has some serious interest to me as well. :yes:
Fuzzysnail
Jun 28, '08, 6:51 PM
Yeah the guns, Throne, and the Zorro!!! Whooo hoooo come on Dave help a guy out. Should I bid on ebay or wait for Cast away toys?
thunderbolt
Jun 28, '08, 7:55 PM
Wait for Castaway, it'll be cheaper than the Flatt prototype. Give it some time, they still have to get Captain Action out.
David Lee
Jun 28, '08, 8:51 PM
Yea... it's gonna be late summer on the Phantom... Ifin it were me? I'd wait for the $20 or so figure... if it were me, but hey do what ya gotta do:silly: We bought the prototypes from Charlee to produce ours; Hands, Guns etc...
The key differences are:
Resin head versus roto'd head
Resin fists versus flexible gun grippers
Cut down CHIPS boots Versus roto'd soft rubber boots
$400 versus $20 or so :smiley3:
If you are looking for the Flatt name and mystique then by all means hit it! If you just want a great Phantom Figure, hang on... it's coming.
Thanks for the interest BTW, we are so excited to see this one made ourselves.
-Dave
Fuzzysnail
Jun 28, '08, 9:00 PM
Awesome Dave put me down for three.....My son needs one and i need two......NOW lets talk about Zorro!!!!!!
Come on Dave if anyone can pull it off its you. I'll say please....
David Lee
Jun 28, '08, 9:12 PM
Awesome Dave put me down for three.....My son needs one and i need two......NOW lets talk about Zorro!!!!!!
Come on Dave if anyone can pull it off its you. I'll say please....
I'll say this: We've talked to the Zorro folks before and they seemed amenable at the time... It fits with what we are doing... Charlee has Prototypes of the Zorro figure... Jason and I would love to see it happen...
How's that?
-Dave
Fuzzysnail
Jun 28, '08, 9:20 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!
You have made my head spin....If you pull this off I will be forever in your debt!!!!
You my friend are my new Mego GOD!!!!!
kept back
Jun 28, '08, 9:22 PM
I'm mostly interested in when those accessories are gonna be available. The bodies, all the different gloves, the new pirate boots...the suspense is kinlling me!
David Lee
Jun 28, '08, 9:26 PM
I'm mostly interested in when those accessories are gonna be available. The bodies, all the different gloves, the new pirate boots...the suspense is kinlling me!
These will arrive first and we have been told soon...:wall:
-Dave
Fuzzysnail
Jun 28, '08, 9:30 PM
Thats a lot of good news in one post Dave!!!! I won't be able to sleep tonight.
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouth ankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthan kyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthanky outhankyou
megozilla13
Jun 28, '08, 11:30 PM
Yea... it's gonna be late summer on the Phantom... Ifin it were me? I'd wait for the $20 or so figure... if it were me, but hey do what ya gotta do:silly: We bought the prototypes from Charlee to produce ours; Hands, Guns etc...
The key differences are:
Resin head versus roto'd head
Resin fists versus flexible gun grippers
Cut down CHIPS boots Versus roto'd soft rubber boots
$400 versus $20 or so :smiley3:
If you are looking for the Flatt name and mystique then by all means hit it! If you just want a great Phantom Figure, hang on... it's coming.
Thanks for the interest BTW, we are so excited to see this one made ourselves.
-Dave
Some more key differences:
Hand made and painted versus made in China by ten year olds
Only a handful made versus mass produced
A head that can be posed in all directions versus one that can just spin like the exorsist
A really cool looking collectible with an equally cool history versus a toy pretending to be a collectible ( whatever that means)
mikej
The Bat
Jun 29, '08, 7:14 AM
Some more key differences:
Hand made and painted versus made in China by ten year olds
Only a handful made versus mass produced
A head that can be posed in all directions versus one that can just spin like the exorsist
A really cool looking collectible with an equally cool history versus a toy pretending to be a collectible ( whatever that means)
mikej
Another important diffence: $400 VS $20. !:terror: And the $20 one still has Charlie's Head sculpt.:wink_y:
megozilla13
Jun 29, '08, 7:44 AM
Yea, that was already mentioned. Kind of comparing apples and apple pie though.
The head on the flattworld phantom was sculpted by Dan Platt, a proffessional Toy sculptor, not Charlee. The head on the Castaway's phantom was sculpted by Cory Woods and refined by Charlee Flatt. So neither was done by Charlee which is actually a good thing.
mikej
Action Martin
Jun 29, '08, 7:52 AM
Just in case you guys are interested, Moonstone has lost the license to the Phantom. And Dynamite Publishing has acquired it.
Dynamite's Phantom (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080628-WWCPhantomDynamite.html)
The Bat
Jun 29, '08, 7:59 AM
Well...one thing that is pretty cool...is that Charlie had originally intended to have The Phantom mass produced...and now it's finally happening.:yes:
David Lee
Jun 29, '08, 9:02 AM
Mike,
My post was not meant to minimize Charlee's work by any means...
If you are looking for the Flatt name and mystique then by all means hit it!
I wish I could afford some Charlee's work myself, he's the man and THE NAME in custom mego figures... That's why we sought him out. Nobody wanted the original Flattworld figure to make it to production more than me! That's a big part of why we chose to do the Phantom at all... Please don't take offense at this post, we were making this figure long before you put the figure on ebay and my comments were in good natured fun. I wish you all the best in selling that proto-type, it's very cool.
-Dave
PS. Our molds are not even a year old:silly:
megozilla13
Jun 29, '08, 11:34 AM
Damn you David Lee, why do you have to be so nice and civil? This could have been the start of a Flatt/Reproduction flame war. It would have taken two completely seperate heated topics from the past and for the first time united them into one. I don't see this opportunity ever coming around again. Thanks for nothing.
mikej
The Bat
Jun 29, '08, 11:40 AM
:smiley1::smiley1:
Fuzzysnail
Jun 29, '08, 11:49 AM
Mike, I had just about reached the end of my bidding when I posted this for David....Davids Post gave me a little hope, so I hope I didn't start a post to **** anyone off.
When I saw the oppurtunity to own the Flatt piece I was psyched and placed my max bid right away and hoped it would not be exceeded. Unfortuneately that was not the case....when it topped my max bid of 300.00 I needed to find out if I needed to seek the unlikely permission of my wife to sell one of the kids to complete the transaction.:wink_y:
I hope you rake it in on this set, its a dream set to own, but at least with Daves figure comming out I know I can own a Phantom, and more importantly the possibility of the Flatt-like ZORRO!!!
Hey Mike you don't have the Flatt Zoro Proto type do you?:licklips:
megozilla13
Jun 29, '08, 4:23 PM
No harm done, I was just screwwing around. I used to own the Flatt Zorro Prototype. It was insane how much detail Charlee put into the costume. I would look at the sword he crafted from metal and couldn't even begin to figure out how he had done it. I believe Dan Platt sculpted the head on that one too and Antonio Bandaras had rejected it. I used to own the one he rejected. A second head was sculpted that was better looking but looked less like him than the one I had.
I'm wondering why Castaway wasn't able to use the Flattworld phantom head. Calvin Weaver still owns it somehow?
mikej
David Lee
Jun 29, '08, 4:59 PM
I'm wondering why Castaway wasn't able to use the Flattworld phantom head. Calvin Weaver still owns it somehow?
mikej
It's still on the table, far as I know... we even thought about an exclusive down the road :costumed-smiley-046
-Dave
Fuzzysnail
Jun 29, '08, 5:36 PM
I would really like to track down the Zorro, If anyone hears about it please let me know. Even some photos would be great.
I agree the detail in that figures costume was insane. I couldn't wait for it to be produced. I am shocked to hear Antonio refused that head, I thought it was pretty dead on. Maybe it was too much Zorro and not enough Antonio Baderos. LOL
The Bat
Jun 30, '08, 6:58 AM
What the Customizer in Me is dying to see is...Boots & Gloves, and Bodies(Flesh Colored ones, blue, black, green, etc...!!!!). LOVE the new "bulked-Up" LJN style Arms!!!:heart::yes:
TCM Hitchhiker
Jun 30, '08, 8:33 AM
Charlie's customs are OK, some are a lot cooler than others, but I have seen a lot better work. The Flatt World Dracula was pretty nice for the time, and the clothing still holds up, but the head sculpt and the body leave a bit to be desired.
I would be ALL for a cool Zorro figure, but I would be FAR more into a more classic version, than a Bandaras/modern version, which I probably wouldn't bother buying.
I am not the biggest Phantom fan, but I don't care for the head sculpt on the prototype on eBay. Just my opinion though.
mishu2nite
Jun 30, '08, 10:03 AM
I will chime in, I own one of those Proto types also. At one time I was not to crazy on the phantom, and thought there were other figures that I would rather have. That change immedately once the figure was placed in my hand. It became priority one to obtain one. The figure is 1000 times nicer in person, and the details are amazing. I was one of the old collectors of Flatts, and back in the day payed the crazy prices. I know the market has fallen out of the figures compared of what it used to be, but someone will walk away with a deal on the proto phantom on ebay. That figure 7-8 years ago would have brought 2K+. I know Mike was an advide collector of the figures back in the day, and probably still would be of if things were different, as of other people probably would have also. That being said with all the hard feelings of many of the collectors, you will hardly ever hear one of them complain about the quality or detail of the figure.
brineb
Jun 30, '08, 10:22 AM
Zorro sounds VERY cool!!!
Fuzzysnail
Jun 30, '08, 10:43 AM
The Flatt figures like Star Wars (the movie) was ahead of its time. Nobody was making custom figures like Flatt at that time, or if they were they weren't advertising them. Charlee went above an beyond, creating a new body, changed the head styles, customized his own heads, and put amazing detail in tight fitting costumes.
True there are a few on these boards today that can surpass his work but his work still sits as one of the top customizers today. Just as Star Wars can stand up against some of the best special effects movies of today.
The Flatt world figures were top of the line, and anyone that has one of th Proto types owns a piece of Customizing history.
When you own one of David Lee's Figures you will not regret the decision.
Raydeen1
Jul 1, '08, 8:15 AM
I will say this,
I've known Charlee for many years. Long before the internet. Back in the days when you had to write on paper. lol.
He is one of the most talented and gracious people I've ever had the pleasure to know and it broke my heart when FlattWorld didn't make it. I for one am so glad David tracked him down and got him involved in these projects and I will get a Phantom if for nothing else, Charlee will have had a hand in it. The guy's work may not be to everyone's liking but if anyone deserves some recognition, he does. And let's not forget Mr.Arendson for the amazing boxes he made for Charlee's figures. This was back when you didn't have more than Photoshop 2.0 and a cheap scanner and if you were lucky, a Pentium 75. :)
ScottA
Jul 1, '08, 8:46 AM
Thanks for the kind words. Trust me, it was a labor of love. Mainly because it was fun and no one was really doing custom boxes at the time. I hope to be back doing it soon.
Charlee still has over 200 boxes I had done for him over the years. He has more than enough to keep him busy should he decide to get back into making customs. I always wanted him to do Nightwing, Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. He also has a set of KISS boxes I wanted him to fill.
I am looking forward to David and Jason's Phantom. And would love it if they could score Zorro or any other of Charlee's proposed lines.
The Bat
Jul 1, '08, 8:57 AM
He is one of the most talented and gracious people I've ever had the pleasure to know and it broke my heart when FlattWorld didn't make it. I for one am so glad David tracked him down and got him involved in these projects and I will get a Phantom if for nothing else, Charlee will have had a hand in it. The guy's work may not be to everyone's liking but if anyone deserves some recognition, he does. And let's not forget Mr.Arendson for the amazing boxes he made for Charlee's figures. This was back when you didn't have more than Photoshop 2.0 and a cheap scanner and if you were lucky, a Pentium 75. :)
Yes...My Hat's off to both of these Gentelmen!:yes: I believe They are the ones that started it all...I know they did for Me. I remember seeing Charlie's Custom's...and Scott's Boxes for the first time...I was in AWE!!!
I was bummed I couldn't afford to buy any of them however...so I was forced to make My own. Thank You Guy's...for all the inspiration!!:yes:
David Lee
Jul 1, '08, 10:39 AM
Yes...My Hat's off to both of these Gentelmen!:yes: I believe They are the ones that started it all...I know they did for Me. I remember seeing Charlie's Custom's...and Scott's Boxes for the first time...I was in AWE!!!
I was bummed I couldn't afford to buy any of them however...so I was forced to make My own. Thank You Guy's...for all the inspiration!!:yes:
AMEN! Without thse guys there would be no Cast-a-Way Toys...
-Dave
PNGwynne
Jul 2, '08, 7:06 PM
I will say this,
I've known Charlee for many years. Long before the internet. Back in the days when you had to write on paper. lol.
He is one of the most talented and gracious people I've ever had the pleasure to know and it broke my heart when FlattWorld didn't make it. I for one am so glad David tracked him down and got him involved in these projects and I will get a Phantom if for nothing else, Charlee will have had a hand in it. The guy's work may not be to everyone's liking but if anyone deserves some recognition, he does. And let's not forget Mr.Arendson for the amazing boxes he made for Charlee's figures. This was back when you didn't have more than Photoshop 2.0 and a cheap scanner and if you were lucky, a Pentium 75. :)
I agree!
I'm new here & I'm impressed by most everyone's efforts. I can't cast or sew, and paint only a little. And God knows, I'm probably the greatest luddite on the forum!
But design is my strong point, and I remember contacting Charlee over ten years ago (through ToyFre!) because I always wanted a Flash, Green Lantern, Luthor, & Doc Ock.
What a patient, encouraging guy! And several of the heads Doc Mego now offers were initially created by Charlee at my commission. Troy Younger, too, helped me many years ago with some great head sculpts.
Our hobby has grown, and as a new member I'm meeting some very kind people & some amazing talents. But I think we all owe Charlee a debt of gratitude.
Scott
The Bat
Jul 2, '08, 9:35 PM
I agree!
I'm new here & I'm impressed by most everyone's efforts. I can't cast or sew, and paint only a little. And God knows, I'm probably the greatest luddite on the forum!
But design is my strong point, and I remember contacting Charlee over ten years ago (through ToyFre!) because I always wanted a Flash, Green Lantern, Luthor, & Doc Ock.
What a patient, encouraging guy! And several of the heads Doc Mego now offers were initially created by Charlee at my commission. Troy Younger, too, helped me many years ago with some great head sculpts.
Our hobby has grown, and as a new member I'm meeting some very kind people & some amazing talents. But I think we all owe Charlee a debt of gratitude.
Scott
Cool Scott! Welcome!:smile: It looks like You've found Your way back Home.:wink_y:
Action Martin
Jul 8, '08, 5:37 PM
Dave, I just sent two e-mails to you via postmaster@castawaytoys.com to let you know that I am moving in 2 weeks and will need my early birds sent to my new address. Both times the e-mails bounced back to me. Yahoo claims that your e-mail account doe not exist.
David Lee
Jul 8, '08, 8:31 PM
Dave, I just sent two e-mails to you via postmaster@castawaytoys.com to let you know that I am moving in 2 weeks and will need my early birds sent to my new address. Both times the e-mails bounced back to me. Yahoo claims that your e-mail account doe not exist.
Sorry Dude! We should be fixed now...shoot me the new address!
-Dave
Action Martin
Jul 9, '08, 4:59 PM
I e-mailed you again this morning at 6:30 am eastern and it bounced again.
Action Martin
Jul 10, '08, 5:41 PM
E-mail bounced again. I just PMd you my new address.
David Lee
Jul 10, '08, 11:14 PM
E-mail bounced again. I just PMd you my new address.
GOT IT!
Funny though I don't get bounced e-mail from other servers...
-Dave
Action Martin
Jul 11, '08, 5:12 PM
I just tried again and it bounced again. Apparently you e-mail provider doesn't like me or my e-mail provider. Here is the message:
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