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  • thunderbolt
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    Originally posted by The Bat
    With all due respect...those lines failed because they were utter CRAP!
    failed with you, FC was 45 figures or so and Retro action was 21, if you throw in Ghost Busters 27. Hardly failures.

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  • ovenmitt
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    I loved FC back in the 90s when Mego like figures were returning! Truly some great ones like Storm, Thor, Dr Doom, Black Widow, Falcon, iron Man, Vision, Jean Grey, sabretooth, magneto, Nightcrawler, Scarlet Witch! I wish DST could do sets of all of these! Yes there were inconsistencies like pinheads, yelling mouths, OVENMITTS! But a great attempt by Toy Biz to revive Mego Marvels! And they were $15 then $10!

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  • Teemu
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    Originally posted by The Bat
    With all due respect...those lines failed because they were utter CRAP!
    Nothing crappy about the famous covers at all...built strong for child play,great costumes and sculpts, and overall a FUN toy to play with...FC hardly failed!

    Originally posted by Ninersphan1
    Failed??? Just doing the Marvel universe the Famous Covers proper line had 36 figure, 42 if you count the X-men Movie/comic two packs, 45 if you include the X-men Animated figures. Hardly a failure. Did it hit the mark with your tastes, no clearly not, but in it's time it was quite popular and sold very well.
    EXACTLY!

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  • Ninersphan1
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    Originally posted by The Bat
    With all due respect...those lines failed because they were utter CRAP!
    Failed??? Just doing the Marvel universe the Famous Covers proper line had 36 figure, 42 if you count the X-men Movie/comic two packs, 45 if you include the X-men Animated figures. Hardly a failure. Did it hit the mark with your tastes, no clearly not, but in it's time it was quite popular and sold very well.

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  • The Bat
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    Originally posted by jayraytee
    It's a realistic one. It's the same reason Famous Covers, Mattel's Retro Action.
    With all due respect...those lines failed because they were utter CRAP!

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  • thunderbolt
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    Originally posted by DSTZach
    Nobody said the market was the same as the 1970s. With the rise of the Internet, and big box stores, yeah, specialty toy stores have taken a hit, but those sales have moved online. So we're happy to split sales between the online and specialty/comic markets, and are happy to have had any retro items in TRU. We had UM there for four years, and only stopped because we ran out of mass-market-friendly characters. I wasn't aware we had Star Trek at TRU, but we made it pretty far at specialty, and now we're bringing it back.
    Seems like The Invisible Man, Werewolf of London and a Mole Person would have went over well. A Son Of Frankenstein variant of the monster would have been a neat way to rerelease him. A Rondo Hatton Creeper might have been a good one, too.

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  • wise guy
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    I just found out about Daredevil and that is really cool . DD and Punisher are great choices that make me happy, and I hope Ironman and Dr. Strange will be in wave 3

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  • DSTZach
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    Originally posted by jayraytee
    It's a realistic one. It's the same reason Famous Covers, Mattel's Retro Action, the Universal Monsters, the Trek figures, the Twilight Zone figures, FTC's DC figures, etc have not lasted long in the general market (toys-r-us, etc). Same reason Captain Action failed as well. These formats were it in the 70s and early 80s. Today's general market is just not the same. You might pick up a few customers in the comic collector market, but that might not counter the natural attrition. The toy market has changed just as the music market has, no record stores on every corner and no Children's Palace, KB Toys, etc. Around here even the Toy's R Us' are dwindling.
    Nobody said the market was the same as the 1970s. With the rise of the Internet, and big box stores, yeah, specialty toy stores have taken a hit, but those sales have moved online. So we're happy to split sales between the online and specialty/comic markets, and are happy to have had any retro items in TRU. We had UM there for four years, and only stopped because we ran out of mass-market-friendly characters. I wasn't aware we had Star Trek at TRU, but we made it pretty far at specialty, and now we're bringing it back.

    The rest of those lines you mentioned, I didn't even know some of them were at TRU. I'm sure that there's someone here who will criticize execution or distribution, but I'd mainly point at the properties -- Twilight Zone skews older, Classic Trek skews older, Batman Classic TV skews older, and I think both Mattel's and Figures' character selections (as well as Hasbro's DC Super Heroes) skewed to older costumes and looks.

    The biggest success was probably the only true Marvel line, which was FC. I forget how many FC figures were made in all (I had at least 20), but it was a fair number, so I'd call it a success, even if they segued to specialty at the end. They also had cool packaging. Captain Action may have had a similar play pattern to us, but the Marvel costumes were made for a non-Marvel character, so it's hard to place us side-by-side.

    I think NECA is in TRU now with their retro figures. No idea how they're selling, but there seems to be a market for them.

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  • jayraytee
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    It's a realistic one. It's the same reason Famous Covers, Mattel's Retro Action, the Universal Monsters, the Trek figures, the Twilight Zone figures, FTC's DC figures, etc have not lasted long in the general market (toys-r-us, etc). Same reason Captain Action failed as well. These formats were it in the 70s and early 80s. Today's general market is just not the same. You might pick up a few customers in the comic collector market, but that might not counter the natural attrition. The toy market has changed just as the music market has, no record stores on every corner and no Children's Palace, KB Toys, etc. Around here even the Toy's R Us' are dwindling.

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  • DSTZach
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    Originally posted by jayraytee
    Hot with who though... they have to know their audience. The only people buying remego type figures is us 40-50 year old guys that had megos back in the day and want to revisit the era. That is their market, like it or not. I'd estimate most of their market would be less interested in newer characters. Very few kids beyond our own kids will get interested in anything in this format, no matter who the character is.
    That's a pretty dim view of the Mego format. Saying that only original Mego owners and the kids they taught about it will ever like Megos? Wow. I never owned Megos as a kid, and my father had no Megos, and I'm 37 and I love 'em. I don't even read Deadpool anymore, but I still want one. I'm not sure anyone can predict what percentage of the VERY LARGE DP fan base will like Megos, but even a small percentage is a lot of people.

    I may have been the guy who said early on we were making Iron Man, and I may have overestimated his rank on our list. I hope we get to him!

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  • Ninersphan1
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    Originally posted by Brue
    Yes - Reynolds has been in 3 superhero movies - all amongst the worst ever made

    blade trinity
    wolverine origins (in which he already was bad as deadpool)
    green lantern

    in addition to thinking he is a turd mark on a movie, i am not a huge deadpool fan. i will not see it unless pretty much everybody says it was good.
    I did not see Green Lantern, never been a big fan of the character so when the reviews came in I passed, but Reynolds was far and away the best part of Blade Trinity, from an acting stand point anyway. I'd guess it was that role that largely likely landed him the Deadpool slot in Wolverine as he was/is perfect for the snarkiness that is Deadpool. It wasn't his fault the writers/producers cast him right and then decided to take away the best part of the character by rendering him mute. Just one of a host of things wrong with that film.

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  • Bronxboykev
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    Originally posted by jayraytee
    Hot with who though... they have to know their audience. The only people buying remego type figures is us 40-50 year old guys that had megos back in the day and want to revisit the era. That is their market, like it or not. I'd estimate most of their market would be less interested in newer characters. Very few kids beyond our own kids will get interested in anything in this format, no matter who the character is.
    So I'm not getting it... Skip on a Red Hot Property right now that might draw a bigger fan base??? To do a set almost Everyone has? I thought the idea was to build the line so we could get Figures Mego Never made. I think the problem is is that for these lines to succeed we needed to draw in the 20 and 30 something's, because I've been told and heard numerous times we 40 to 50 something's can't carry the Remego community.

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  • Brue
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    Originally posted by wise guy
    Another bad choice by these guys. It's like they are out of touch with with remogo collectors. Ironman is selling more toys right now than Deadpool
    as is seen in any Toy or Dept store . Hopefully the movie won't suck but Ryan Reynolds has a history of one star movies
    Yes - Reynolds has been in 3 superhero movies - all amongst the worst ever made

    blade trinity
    wolverine origins (in which he already was bad as deadpool)
    green lantern

    in addition to thinking he is a turd mark on a movie, i am not a huge deadpool fan. i will not see it unless pretty much everybody says it was good.

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  • jayraytee
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    Originally posted by Bronxboykev
    DeadPool is hotttt right now and aside from the Batman Vs Superman movie the DeadPool trailer drew A LOT OF BUZZ, his release will probably co inside with the Movie release... Very cool IMO
    Hot with who though... they have to know their audience. The only people buying remego type figures is us 40-50 year old guys that had megos back in the day and want to revisit the era. That is their market, like it or not. I'd estimate most of their market would be less interested in newer characters. Very few kids beyond our own kids will get interested in anything in this format, no matter who the character is.

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  • Mego-Amigo
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    I'll pass on Deadpool and any other characters that go beyond the classic Mego era.

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