Yes, I am a Mego Marvel Maniac & tired of it not getting attention it deserves!

[ovenmitt]

10 days until SDCC Preview Night Wed. June 8. I hope we hear news at SDCC of another company besides Diamond or Sideshow announcing some scale of AFFORDABLE cloth-costumed Marvel figures!

And no not Mezco. I was disappointed by its 6" DKR Batman for $55!

[wise guy]

I asked about Swamp Thing in another post and Mickey said if they can do him they will , but was not able to tell us if he is on the list of available charectors

[enyawd72]

Deadman is easy enough - firestorm a pinch harder to pull off but think they will get those both done for sure.
IMO I just don't see swamp thing anytime soon - maybe wayyyy down the line. So many other characters to make in DC before him DeadShot, Huntress, canary, Justice society figures etc..

As far as pulling him off - I think they would have to make a whole new body for him - or add plastic overlay parts of weeds and such to lay over his suit hands and feet. maybe along the lines like the Neptuian style but with weeds as boots and gloves etc. I'm not sure they are ready to pull that one off just yet - also not sure if he is high on their list of figures to make.

I think he would look really good with just a screen printed bodysuit and a headsculpt with the enlarged neck area.
I may have to design a prototype.

[Vinny0026]

Well, I can say this...I am enjoying the ride so far with the DC figures. I just want to see my favorite three get made. Firestorm, Swamp Thing, and Deadman.

How do you think FTC could pull off a Swamp Thing figure?

Deadman is easy enough - firestorm a pinch harder to pull off but think they will get those both done for sure.
IMO I just don't see swamp thing anytime soon - maybe wayyyy down the line. So many other characters to make in DC before him DeadShot, Huntress, canary, Justice society figures etc..

As far as pulling him off - I think they would have to make a whole new body for him - or add plastic overlay parts of weeds and such to lay over his suit hands and feet. maybe along the lines like the Neptuian style but with weeds as boots and gloves etc. I'm not sure they are ready to pull that one off just yet - also not sure if he is high on their list of figures to make.

[enyawd72]

Well, I can say this...I am enjoying the ride so far with the DC figures. I just want to see my favorite three get made. Firestorm, Swamp Thing, and Deadman.

How do you think FTC could pull off a Swamp Thing figure?

[Vinny0026]

I think FTC will eventually end up with the license regardless. They are by all accounts outselling DST Marvel sets by a LOT. If Marvel sees enough dollar signs, they're gonna let somebody else take a crack at the license whether Hasbro likes it or not. Hasbro doesn't own Marvel.

Look if DST failed - than maybe marvel would sell the rights to someone else

But FTC/CTV would still have to shell out a lot of money to get them.
So there is a chance that they would not want to spend that kind of money, also the chance marvel & hasbro shoot anyone else from making them.

There is really such a small time frame on this re-surge
average age of the person buying these is 40-50 years old

Also - most of those people already have a set of original mego figures

If CTV got these rights 10 years down the road - do you think the sales would be as good as the DC is right now? I highly doubt it.

The spike on Marvel mego prices on ebay clearly show the pattern of people buying the FTC DC figures and grabbing Marvel figures to complete what they had as a kid.
Most of them only want what mego made.

I'm clearly a More of a Marvel guy - so I would get them. But I don't see this re-mego trend having these kind of sales in 10 years (IMO) most of us will be 50-60 at that point in time selling off our **** to pay for our kids college, cars and weddings.

We are die-hards but really other than us I doubt many others are buying figures.

Look at us here at the MM - 1/2 dont buy the FTC figures - half dont by the DST figures as we are the market for these toys! Some grab a few from each.
But if even us mego heads are not going all in on both lines in its glorious comeback - what do you think will be happening in ten years from now?

and just my last point - Hasbro has a lot of say in what disney/marvel do with the rights.
Who do you think sells more figures? FTC or Hasbro Marvel legends? Hasbro is in every toystore in America - Toys r us, disney store, wallmart, target, kmart and everywhere else
Ctv/ftv is sold only on line.

I'm friends with CTV/FTC I love what they are doing - but you have to think clearly at what some of you are saying.
As of now they don't have the rights - and it will not be an easy or cheap task to land them somewhere down the line.

They have great sales in DC - and they can make just about every figure they want in the format they want to sell it at. They have more than enough figures to make than to worry about the marvel figures they can't make. I just don't see them getting the rights anytime soon - if ever.

I see pros and cons in both lines - all I can say is buy what you like pass on what you dont - but I don't see these lines around in ten years pushing the sales they are pushing now.
I hope I'm wrong - cause I would be 1 of the few still married to this scale - But I just can't see it. You start getting down to the secondary and 3rd tier characters and very few will be all in for those.

[enyawd72]

I think FTC will eventually end up with the license regardless. They are by all accounts outselling DST Marvel sets by a LOT. If Marvel sees enough dollar signs, they're gonna let somebody else take a crack at the license whether Hasbro likes it or not. Hasbro doesn't own Marvel.

[TRDouble]

The way I think to have done it with the forced price point should have been a single complete Set of 3 all in there correct complete outfits all different figures in a box set. Example: (Ironman-Spiderman-Thor) (Hulk-Thing-Invs-Girl) (Torch-Mr fantastic-Captain A) (Falcon-Lizard- Etc Etc). Then they could have worked around to all new character 3 packs as well. But even that great idea may have had restrictions to keep them from even doing that. You would be very surprised to know all the restrictions that are put on a License. Including any all face and head sculpts, outfits etc etc. All have to be approved.

The restrictions included the sets being of only one character. That is why they went repro, modern, civilian.

I wonder what people would have thought of the DST Marvels if FTC DC did not exist. I think for a lot of people, having the FTC model of single, complete figures hurt DST right out of the gate.

[mickeymoosemego]

The way I think to have done it with the forced price point should have been a single complete Set of 3 all in there correct complete outfits all different figures in a box set. Example: (Ironman-Spiderman-Thor) (Hulk-Thing-Invs-Girl) (Torch-Mr fantastic-Captain A) (Falcon-Lizard- Etc Etc). Then they could have worked around to all new character 3 packs as well. But even that great idea may have had restrictions to keep them from even doing that. You would be very surprised to know all the restrictions that are put on a License. Including any all face and head sculpts, outfits etc etc. All have to be approved.

[wise guy]

Finally the voice of reason thank you MIB41 your logic would make Spock agree.( Buy what you like ) When you add in the extra bodies, custom packages,and the high price of the sets, plus you have to make your own figures( it's not comparable). I am not replacing FTC figures with Emce bodies so I save on that too. It's too much work
trying to sell off the secret ID figures on Ebay

[The Bat]

I gotta say MIB41...that was very well written. Well done good Sir!

[MIB41]

I think this has been a productive discussion on the merits of all the product out there and I'm glad to see a honest perspective on the fact all the reMego bodies have their share of issues. Personally I think the end result is inherent with the concept adopted from Mego. Bodies that have tensioning technology have never (nor will ever) provide a consistent result where durability is measured. It doesn't take much variation in the manufacturing of these pieces to impact the end result, so there's always going to be intangibles to the process that we have to accept in this design.

With regards to the suits and general design of figures, I think allot of that is subjective to the personal sense of satisfaction one gets after buying them. Did you get what you wanted? For people who want a specific character, particular look, or vintage design, sometimes flaws are forgiven for the sake of satisfaction we get at a very fundamental level. It pleases the kid inside us. So I think the flaws that so many figures inherently carry will be the usual suspects when that kid inside of us is not feeling it. And I'm not suggesting criticisms are not valid. In many cases there are real quality control issues that can (and should) be fixed. But when they reach a critical level where you start having buyers remorse, that's where price becomes a bigger player.

In the case of the DST EMCE sets, it was unavoidable. I saw that coming a mile away before we ever laid eyes on the first prototype. You're taking a figure that is historically viewed as a simple, cheap, but charming toy and trying to wrap it in a premium priced package that in concept looks fun, but is too far removed from the price points of it's closet cousins. For whatever the justification, that was an enormous leap of logic to place on the consumer and everyone knew the quality would have to be vastly superior to the current playing field of figures. And judging by most opinions and accounts, we not only didn't get better quality, but in some instances got reduced quality when measured against far cheaper lines.

For myself, it was purely a matter of personal value. I didn't care what the licensing challenges were if I could not benefit as the consumer. I do believe an effort was made to bring value to that price point, but at the end of the day, a couple of heads and spare outfits didn't fill the gap in logic I needed to open my wallet. And no breakdown or comparison of goods to price has sold me on the perception that we have an apples to apples comparison here with cheaper lines. When I buy four figures, I get four bodies, four outfits, four backer cards, and four re-sealable clamshells. They each have their own ability to be stored or displayed in their own packaging. The DST EMCE set has one reproduction box for one complete figure and materials to assist in making two LOOSE figures with additional purchases needed to complete. It's not an apples to apples compare at all. So you not only need to buy extra bodies to get on that same playing field, you need to buy extra clamshells, and pay someone to make you custom backer cards. And l say none of this to suggest or imply anyone who likes them should consider otherwise. These are all personal choices and for those who love these lines, that's great. But for me, I have to do too much work (and spend more money than I desire) on the back end to make them compatible with how I display and store my collection.

With all the other companies, I buy the figures I like and enjoy the fact they all share some degree of packaging similarities so they can coexist either on a peg board or on a shelf. FTC is dominating the platform because they've acquired so many licenses and are offering a huge degree of variety within each of those. Whether it's DC, KISS, Dukes, Stooges, etc., there's an enormous pool of product to pick and choose from. For those unique few who are caught up in the variant chase, God love them. But for others, it just means different choices. If you want Batman in his '66 incarnation, he's available. If you want him as Mego did him, that's available. If you want him as the classic fist-fighter, FTC didn't leave you hanging. If you're wanting the classic Superfriends look, that's coming down the pike too. So there's just loads of choices and price points to tickle just about any inclination you have in this hobby. I can't find a negative in that scenario. Buy what you want and skip the stuff you don't. To me, THAT is the merit. I'm not hog tied to one interpretation, one price point, or one particular design to resign myself to a purchase.

[ovenmitt]

Yeah I know TRU was clogged with Round 2 Captain Action $20 Spidey and Captain America sets and especially the $30! Captain Action and Dr Evil figures! UGH! Customers actually returned the costumes because they thought a figure was supposed to be inside the box! lol

TRU is mass-market though. I was just wondering if DST could sell an individual Mego Marvel costume/head/maybe accessories set to put on a Mego 8" figure. That would be a costume for a figure not a complete figure to compete with Hasbro. That's how Round 2 got Marvel license and that was in TRU! And also DC license which R2 did nothing with.

[wise guy]

Round 2 Capt Action did'nt sell very well, and a lot of Toy r us were choking on those sets so probably not. Remego collectors are few in comparison to action figure collectors
just check other sites like FWOOSH, Action Figure Insider, Toy News International, and you will find no comments or posts on remegos .IMO it's a tough sell on these
and high price sets are not helping things.FTC has issues too, but it's easier to put out 25.00 on a figure than 80.00

[ovenmitt]

April 16, 2013 Mego 8" DC WGSH finally returned after 30 years when FTC announced it had the license! So far I have been very pleased! We have gotten repros of all 21 different Mego DC, Fist Fighters, 18", Kresge cards, NEW DC like New Teen Titans, Shazam, Superboy, SUPER FRIENDS!

I just wish DST EMCE had this FREEDOM with Mego Marvel which is a dud.

*Hey can DST EMCE sell INDIVIDUAL Marvel costumes and heads to put on Mego body like Round 2 did with Captain Action where Marvel costumes were only $20 each and most were nice!