Boy Story action dolls (Kickstarter)

[cjefferys]

Anyone else remember Toybiz trying to get around paying the doll tax?

By law, dolls are human figures and were taxed higher than toys, which were considered non human figures. So, any toy, that represented a human, like GI JOE or Barbie, had to pay the much higher doll tariff. Toybiz argued and won that the XMEN weren't human so they shouldn't have to pay the higher doll tariff. The law has since been changed and dolls and toys are taxed the same.

So, again, action figure is just a marketing term for doll.

Yeah, at my job I remember seeing human and non-human toys being classified differently with different duty rates and thought it was odd. At one point, that chapter of the tariff schedule was simplified so now practically all toys (except games) are grouped in a small section, all duty free.

Oh, and I love all my superhero dolls!

[CrimsonGhost]

If it has removable clothes, it's a doll.

I fall in line with that kind of thinking 100%.

[LonnieFisher]

Gi Joe is not a doll it's a action figure. Hot Toys does not list there stuff as dolls they list as action figure.

If it has removable clothes, it's a doll. Mego sold it's figures as "dolls". 12 inch G.I.Joe is a doll, 3 3/4 inch G.I.Joe is an action figure. 8 inch Mego is a doll, 3 3/4 inch Mego is an action figure.
It isn't a bad thing to be a doll. Better than being an action figure.

[Werewolf]

Still not sold on the molded hair. But I think these would have much more of a mainstream appeal than other kick starter projects, like Lammily. They actually look like something you'd find at a TRU or Target. I think people forget before the Child's Play movies My Buddy dolls were very popular. Even after the Child's Play movies My Buddy dolls still sold well enough to last into the early 90s.

[HardyGirl]

And BTW Peter, thanks for turning a thread about a fantstic Kickstarter campaign into an arguement about manliness and sexuality. Most people have moved on from arguing semantics over the terms "doll" and "action figures". It's ashame you haven't. And repeating your point over and over isn't going to make you anymore right. You're entitled to your beliiefs and opinions, but don't come on here and take over this thread w/ your caveman attitudes in 2016 and think we're gonna be OK w/ that. And just so you know, there are no "rules" about toy collecting. People can collect and play with whatever toys they want. Or is the word freedom just not in your vocabulary?

There are different rules for males and females. Straight males are not going to dance with each other at a party or night club or hold Hands .And most straight men who collect mego, gijoe or Hot Toys are not going to use "I collect dolls"

[HardyGirl]

Preach it, Brian!

Being comfortable in your sexuality is way manlier than your silly grade school bravado.

I collect dolls and i'm straight, heck the inside of my head would make Russ Meyer blush. I've got two black belts, despise clothes shopping and am a total slob. Just purchased a new GI Joe doll after I finished laying some stone today.

Sad that people still think something like this matters at all.

[Werewolf]

Anyone else remember Toybiz trying to get around paying the doll tax?

By law, dolls are human figures and were taxed higher than toys, which were considered non human figures. So, any toy, that represented a human, like GI JOE or Barbie, had to pay the much higher doll tariff. Toybiz argued and won that the XMEN weren't human so they shouldn't have to pay the higher doll tariff. The law has since been changed and dolls and toys are taxed the same.

So, again, action figure is just a marketing term for doll.

[Werewolf]

Gi Joe is not a doll it's a action figure.

GI JOE is a doll and so is Captain Action. GI JOE was designed to have removable clothes, like Barbie, so children could purchase and dress them up in many of the additional outfits that were available. The classic 12 inch GI JOE is, basically, a military fashion doll.

[palitoy]

Gi Joe is not a doll it's a action figure. Hot Toys does not list there stuff as dolls they list as action figure.

GI Joe was created when Stan Weston noticed boys playing with Ken dolls.

They worried kids would have trouble with the word "doll" so action figure was coined. It's always been semantics and you're clinging to them 53 years later.

Enjoy your imaginary fence, fellow doll collector.

[PNGwynne]

Of course they don't, for exactly the attitude you display here. "Action figure" is a spin term coined to validate customer bias. We all get the marketing angle. And speaking of marketing, obviously this is a niche item, why do you think it's a kickstarter.

Most little boys aren't asking for Joes of any sort now, either, they're busy with superheroes and video games.

The bigger issue is why you insist on the distinction at all and your belittlement of boys who may not play as you choose to see fit. You brought up the subject. Obviously girls can play with GI Joe or trucks, and boys with "dolls" or dishes, and it would not be the end of heterosexual civilization.

Edit: And BTW, what child buys $300 Hot Toys, or even is likely to receive one as a gift?

[PeterRR]

Being comfortable in your sexuality is way manlier than your silly grade school bravado.

I collect dolls and i'm straight, heck the inside of my head would make Russ Meyer blush. I've got two black belts, despise clothes shopping and am a total slob. Just purchased a new GI Joe doll after I finished laying some stone today.

Sad that people still think something like this matters at all.

Gi Joe is not a doll it's a action figure. Hot Toys does not list there stuff as dolls they list as action figure.

[PNGwynne]

The least of our worries in this country is the masculinization of children based on what toys they prefer. IMO.

[palitoy]

There are different rules for males and females. Straight males are not going to dance with each other at a party or night club or hold Hands .And most straight men who collect mego, gijoe or Hot Toys are not going to use "I collect dolls"

Being comfortable in your sexuality is way manlier than your silly grade school bravado.

I collect dolls and i'm straight, heck the inside of my head would make Russ Meyer blush. I've got two black belts, despise clothes shopping and am a total slob. Just purchased a new GI Joe doll after I finished laying some stone today.

Sad that people still think something like this matters at all.

[Werewolf]

There's different rules for collecting toys? What are these rules, who enforces them and why am I always the last to know!? I dread to think about all the rules my parents must have broke just with birthdays and Christmas.

[sprytel]

I collect dolls.