What's Up with Star Trek on Netflix?

[Klosterheim]

I know engineers, they love to change things.

And for a long time, they were changing Star Wars. Just like in the theatrical release of Attack of the Clones, Anakin has a very large robotic arm, then on DVD it was mostly covered up with clothing and mainly just showed his hand.

Some movie changes have been originally filmed as alternate versions of different scenes, and they just use the existing footage for the home version, which seems more acceptable.

Legend is known for it's radically different two DVD versions.

I Am Legend has an alternate ending, and not just in deleted scenes, which is nice.

Even the Blu-ray of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes has 2 full versions of the movie to watch now, which is pretty awesome! Also, original footage was used. I guess it's mostly the audio track is different, but still pretty cool, since it was talked about for years.

I notice several changes from theater to home video in movies. Then there are the censored TV versions. It's like a weird and twisted Alternate Universe out there. A lot of re-written history.

Perhaps the new Alt-World jumping off point began with that one shark scene in Thunderball where Connery says two different lines of dialogue in at least 2 versions of Thunderball, ha!,ha!

Then there was the full screen changes effect, like when in Star Wars - Luke can see one of the SandPeople through his binoculars and the audience can not see them in the distance, beside the Bantha.

[The Bat]

I'm with you on that the effects are great and I heard the latest Blu-ray has both versions the originals and special effects edition.

My Star Trek Blu-ray set has the same option...I can toggle between the original FX or the new CGI. I'm also a fan of the updated CGI effects in Star Wars IV: A New Hope. I think it really needed it, but again I also own both versions. The only thing I didn't like was one change....Han SHOT first DAMMIT!! LOL!

[Mr.Marion]

You guys are nuts. The updated CG FX look great. Most are seamless and the ones with very minor issues, certainly look better than most of the bad effect shots they were replacing. The blinking on the Gorn is the ONLY thing that looks real, lol.

I'm with you on that the effects are great and I heard the latest Blu-ray has both versions the originals and special effects edition. So it's not like they are revising History.
Now Star Wars is a different story since the additions are out of place, don't match continuity, the originals are unavailable, and in the case of ROTJ they replaced the original Anakin Skywalker entirety. I mean c'mon why would his spirit be the 20 year old version of him?

[Mikey]

I actually have more respect for the Animated Series cause they clearly rotoscoped the original effects into the animation.

They could have done the same with CGI leaving every clean but familiar

Instead they decide to add "artist touches" wish should have never been added.

Star Trek got along just fine for 40+ years without makeover

[palitoy]

And I like the option of the new CGI. Granted, some of it works and some of it doesn't, but I like having the option of what to watch. The planet Vulcan in "Amok Time" looks awesome.

It's hard to have beef with the option of original VS newly updated. BBC did the same thing with some Doctor Who DVDs where they added new CGI. Like the Treks, i find the transition too discordant and stick with the original.

I wish I had that option with netflix/cravetv but Paramount is only interested in streaming the new ones.

I do agree some of the Planet scenes probably come out the best, the ships to me look dated now.

[ODBJBG]

You guys are nuts. The updated CG FX look great. Most are seamless and the ones with very minor issues, certainly look better than most of the bad effect shots they were replacing. The blinking on the Gorn is the ONLY thing that looks real, lol.

[rykerw1701]

Does anyone know who that female voice singing the melody is? at first I thought it was Nichelle Nichols
but I'm thinking it was maybe some female opera singer of the time.

The vocal was re-recorded for the remastered Blu Rays. I saw a clip of it being done, and the woman singing wasn't Nichelle Nichols.

And I like the option of the new CGI. Granted, some of it works and some of it doesn't, but I like having the option of what to watch. The planet Vulcan in "Amok Time" looks awesome.

At least they learned from the mistake of Lucasfilm and didn't pretend the original "no longer existed." We can choose what we prefer, and that's cool.

[TrekStar]

yeah, I couldn't tell if it was distorted or simply re done. It's really glaring and sort of odd.

Does anyone know who that female voice singing the melody is? at first I thought it was Nichelle Nichols
but I'm thinking it was maybe some female opera singer of the time.

[cjefferys]

Man, I haven't watched these redone HD versions since they were released on HD DVD about 10 years ago (the high def versions came out on HD DVD before Blu-ray because back during the format war when the studios were choosing sides, Paramount originally went with the HD DVD side instead of Blu-ray). I remember liking the redone FX at the time and everything looked really nice in HD, but I'm sure that now ten years later they probably look dated.

[toothaction]

It invariably bums me out when old, perfect things are 'updated' for a modern audience by a modern marketing team - from reformatting the image to 'fit' a specific, newer screen to 'fixing' old special effects, it always strikes my eyes as a glaring compromise rather than a welcome retrofit --- I continue to love what I loved often because of how clear it is now what era it came from, and anything other than print restoration takes away from the pleasure I get from re-experiencing whatever thing it is that I want to take a new look at. Also, more significantly, it robs those that didn't experience whatever it was in its day of being able to see the true creation as it existed then. Where's the interest in history?

As mentioned above, however you 'fix' an older thing is just going to look dated in a different way in short order.


TL:DR: Bah!

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[The Bat]

I personally like the CGI upgrades, in fact in this digital day and age of HD TV's & Blu-ray's...I think they were absolutely necessary. I have an awesome 55" Samsung 1080p TV and own the Blu-ray set and LOVE IT! But hey...to each his own.

[LardLad]

You can tell the people involved worked really hard on the remasters. My only complaint is Van Gelder isn't inserted into every episode [ATTACH=CONFIG]21090[/ATTACH]

Yes, everything is better with more Van Gelder. I wish they'd given him more air time in Logan's Run (tv series).

[palitoy]

And it sounds like an all new vocal track of the female voice singing the melody. Why?

yeah, I couldn't tell if it was distorted or simply re done. It's really glaring and sort of odd.

[Mr.Marion]

^Yeah, the "remastered" opening themes are horrible. I can't remember which season it is, but Shatner sounds like he's talking through a tin can.

And it sounds like an all new vocal track of the female voice singing the melody. Why?

Chris

You can tell the people involved worked really hard on the remasters. My only complaint is Van Gelder isn't inserted into every episode tristan-adams.jpg

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Yeah, the "remastered" opening themes are horrible. I can't remember which season it is, but Shatner sounds like he's talking through a tin can.

And it sounds like an all new vocal track of the female voice singing the melody. Why?

Chris