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JeePERS Vort---and you complimented MY post!There are probably many more that we could collectively add to the list. The point is, humiliating death of overarching villainy is a tried-and-true motif of adventure cinema and literature -- and no one counts Dracula as a less effective villain because he executes a ludcrous pratfall at the end of every single Hammer film of the 50s-70s. Fett's laughable demise is a continuation of this idea; his badassness is reduced to the level of a sight-gag in order to convey to children (and to us if we're watching for this kind of thing): "Look -- the bad guys in life aren't so bad. All you have to do is oppose them -- and they're defeated."
As an aspiring writer of this sort of villain character---you really gave me a lesson
today that I'll keep with me.
And it makes total sense---you can't deny cinema/story-telling history in these cases.Leave a comment:
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He is the "Most Feared" Bounty Hunter because nobody else dares go into the restroom after he's been in there.
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Adam West summed that up pretty wellWell I guess given the Star Wars world double-dipping with Vader and Jabba would take some serious gonads.
I'd call that grounds for being one of the "greatest" bounty hunters---if not "THE greatest"
----part of being a great bounty hunter is their resourcefulness---not just their physical prowess.
Nah---Jango got killed by the very guy that went into a stalemate with Boba (MACE WINDU).Jango is A Bad Arse,.. & should be called the "Most Feared & Greatest Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy".
Not ,.. His StormTrooper Knock-Off Clone Son.
Boba wins that one.
Boba got it goin on!Last edited by huedell; Apr 4, '08, 5:06 PM.Leave a comment:
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Well I guess given the Star Wars world double-dipping with Vader and Jabba would take some serious gonads.Leave a comment:
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I think Jango's Much more of a Bad Arse than Boba Ever thought about being. However this might be a Bias Opionion,.. I played the Jango Fett Video Game a Few yrs back,.. & if it's not in Continuty,.. I don't give a Damn,.. but at the End of the Game Jango took down a Sith Apprentince to gain the right to be Cloned for the Troopers, & became Dooku's right hand Man. Let alone all the monsters & Aliens he took down as well. Then like was stated,.. He went toe-to-toe with the Most Powerful Jedi, imo, with ObiWan, inwhich he did kinda win,.. Obiwan Made Anikan in to Vader, & Obiwan Killed DarthMaul as well as Grevious.
Jango is A Bad Arse,.. & should be called the "Most Feared & Greatest Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy".
Not ,.. His StormTrooper Knock-Off Clone Son.
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^ ^ On that score, we do get some insight into Boba's badassness by seeing what his "father" can do in AotC -- after all it's the same suit and the same genetic material! Jango fights one super-powerful Jedi -- Kenobi -- to a stalemate and is killed by another -- Windu -- after Jango has been trampled by the reek and his jetpack disabled. Any non-Force-user who can go toe-to-toe with a Jedi must be a badass in his own right!Leave a comment:
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I'm not a hardcore Star Wars fan but I think the Bounty Hunter Greedo had a few lines before Hans Solo blasted him in the bar.
Also, I'm sure Jango Fett has some type of background story that I don't think was discussed in the movie. There must have been some desirable traits if they were going through all the trouble to clone him including Bobba Fett who was yet another clone of Jango.Leave a comment:
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^ ^ In all fairness, Kirk, the actors who portrayed the Fetts (Boba and Jango) had to wear the same costume, and they seemed to have survived without their colons exploding! Just sayin'.
In addition to all the stuff wikipedia mentions in huedell's excellent post above, there is also the matter to consider that ignominious deaths for otherwise scary or "cool" villains are a staple of adventure and fantasy films. Consider the following list:
* The Wicked Witch -- arguably the coolest, scariest villain ever -- dies when WATER is thrown onto her, and she melts.
* The three Super-criminals -- escapees from the Phantom Zone -- get their powers taken away and are PUSHED, THROWN or SOCKED into a ravine, in two cases by mere humans.
* The evil Wizard Saruman -- master of the Uruk-Hai -- gets STABBED by his slimy henchman Grima and thrown over the side of his own tower (in the books he's merely stabbed on the ground during the post-climactic Scouring of the Shire chapter).
* Blofeld -- the arch-villain and SPECTRE mastermind -- gets tossed from a helicopter into a SMOKESTACK whilst immotile in a wheelchair.
* Blackwolf -- mutant master of Eldritch magicks in the post-Apocalyptic future -- gets PLUGGED BY A .45 handgun and called a "Son of a *****!"
* Count Dracula -- as portrayed by Christopher Lee -- always winds SLIPPING AS IF ON A BANANA PEEL and getting skewered on a stake, a cross or a fencepost.
* The Emperor himself -- Palpatine the Sith Lord -- is picked up manfully and TOSSED into a profoundly deep pit whilst screaming and evidently incapacitated by his own lightning discharge.
There are probably many more that we could collectively add to the list. The point is, humiliating death of overarching villainy is a tried-and-true motif of adventure cinema and literature -- and no one counts Dracula as a less effective villain because he executes a ludcrous pratfall at the end of every single Hammer film of the 50s-70s. Fett's laughable demise is a continuation of this idea; his badassness is reduced to the level of a sight-gag in order to convey to children (and to us if we're watching for this kind of thing): "Look -- the bad guys in life aren't so bad. All you have to do is oppose them -- and they're defeated."Last edited by Vortigern99; Apr 4, '08, 11:44 AM.Leave a comment:
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I don't like his suit .....
If he had to take an emergeny fast dump, it's just too much stuff to take off.
Cool ?
Maybe
Functional ?
I don't think so
Imagine running in the stall and trying to get that jetpack and needless crap off in time.
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I am not nearly as versed in expanded universe as huedell (thanks by the way) but aside from the undeiable cool look of him I go back to the late 70's when as a boy I tuned in for the Star wars holiday sepcial and the only part that was worth it was the 3 mniute animated segment with Fett. I beleive he was the first mail in kenner figure and his 12" figure was amazing especailyl when compared to the other kenner figs. His screen time in the films was short but he is the only bounty hunter with dialog in Empire. These 3 points led to his being a popular character. He and the mandalrian knights have several issues in the old Marvel comic committed to them as well.
Much like ther "cult of Wedge" it is amazing how peripheral characters in the original films take on a life of their ownLeave a comment:
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I went to wikipedia and edited something up for this thread...
all quoted stuff is from wikipedia...
In the original trilogy and Holiday Special appearance it seems that
Boba Fett's real "dangerous attribute" is not his physical prowess---its
actually his ability to think ahead, track prey and manipulate people
(and, obviously he's a high-level tech-head too---just lookit all his
cool gadgets and that rockin' spaceship he uses)...
"In The Star Wars Holiday Special Boba Fett befriends and aids Luke (& friends)...but
it is eventually revealed that he is in reality working for Darth Vader and the Empire"
In The Empire Strikes Back Boba Fett beats out the best bounty hunters in the galaxy by tracking the Millennium Falcon...
"He is the only hunter to deduce how the Falcon eluded the Empire by hiding on the hull
of a Star Destroyer. He then requests his ship to be placed in the Star Destroyer's
garbage, in order to be hidden in it when the warship jettisons the mass before
departing, anticipating that the Falcon will use the waste as cover when it detaches
from its hiding place. Fett's hunch is correct, and he tracks the ship and surmises that
Han Solo is likely headed for Cloud City on Bespin."
"In addition to the reward for Solo's capture from the Empire, Vader allows Boba Fett to
take Han Solo, frozen in carbonite, back to Jabba to receive an additional reward,
claiming two bounties on the same job. In later Expanded Universe material, it is
revealed that Fett charged Jabba a larger amount than the original bounty price. He was
able to do this by explaining that the frozen Solo was unique artwork created by Darth
Vader."
TWO BOUNTIES CLAIMED for one guy??? Crafty Fett---crafty!
In Return Of The Jedi---admittedly---Fett suffers a LAME DEATH...not fitting for
the characters' supposed "tough guy" rep---nor appropriate for his popularity with fans.
Looks like George Lucas actually considers Fett to have ESCAPED DEATH at the hands
of the SARLACC-- but, ALSO, can you believe this...jaded STAR WARS fans...Lucas had
RESTRAINT in editing the SPECIAL EDITION version of JEDI to show Fett's actual
escape...
"Lucas explains that he eventually decided against the new shot because at that point
in the movie, the main point of focus is the death of Jabba the Hutt, and he felt that
the 'resurrection' of Fett would draw away from that."
In the Young adult Boba Fett series Fett uses his techie skills to modify his
father's armor and ship at an early age---ready to take on the galaxy,
gaining "several minor bounties under his belt before the age of 13."
"Fett is one of the few beings in the galaxy to know the major secret of the Clone Wars:
that Count Dooku had built the clone army."
"Young Boba also gets the chance to face his father's killer, Jedi Master Mace Windu, in
Boba Fett: Pursuit. Fett tracks Windu to Chancellor Palpatine's waiting room and
engages him in combat. Neither can overwhelm the other, and the fight ends in a
stalemate."
Okay..its a stalemate...BUT...
I think that's PRETTY DANG GOOD going up against the second (or third) most powerful
Jedi Knight in the galaxy.

There's lots more expanded universe stuff---but its pretty boring
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