Escape from the Planet of the Apes

[Nostalgiabuff]

no, it was the same ship design Taylor had

[babycyclops]

Isn't the ship that lands on Earth with Zira, Corny and Milo an Apollo or Mercury type capsule, while Taylor and Brent's ships are a futuristic design?

[ctc]

>You basically need to accept it and move on.

Repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax."

Don C.

[ironman1188]

Yes, and it is "official" so its as close to canon as it can be.

[Nostalgiabuff]

there is a book out called Conspiracy on the Planet of the Apes which explains how Milo fixed the ship and they got out. pretty good read. also deals with Landon and what was going on with him during the events of the movie. if you really want to know.

[Mikey]

One advantage of the original shown version ...

If it wasn't for the original shown version we would never get the classic astronaut helmet removal scene.

This scene is probably only second in iconic Apes scenes only after the Statue of Liberty.

Shame it was used (and wasted) at the start of the movie.

[ironman1188]

Here's how I would have done the movie to make it more paletable to the average geek (like me)

Movie starts right before the old movie ended (pre bomb explosion)

We see the events leading up to the bomb

Mix that with new scenes of Zira and Corney

Finally with clever filmwork make it known the bomb explosion made a timewarp and it sucked in Zira and Corney.

Milo is not needed

The average geek has watched the film and moved on.
The bomb making a time warp would cause people to ask what exploded in the first film to make the warp that Taylor went thru.
Milo is needed because he was the "nerd" chimp with the brains to, at least partially, figure out how the ship worked.
As for most of the flying I always figured they had an auto pilot function on the ship.

[Wasimhosen]

Probably the saddest most brutal ending to any movie.

[megoapesnut]

You basically need to accept it and move on.

BINGO! Give that man a Ceeeegar!

[johnmiic]

I give the explanation a pass because it's not believable. If Brent's ship had just landed safely and was ready for takeoff I could accept them hitting a wrong button and launching in return mode. It's still too much like Far Out Space Nuts but you don't have to explain they "fixed" one of the previous ships that crashed.

This website offers some tantalizing omissions from the movie's script as well as insights into the spaccraft:

http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/background.html

More info on the ship:

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/ApesShip/PofA01.html

I hear that a copy of the original model miniature, (unfilmed in the movies I think), is in the Planet Hollywood club in Orlando Florida. Anyone can confirm this?

[ctc]

>make it known the bomb explosion made a timewarp and it sucked in Zira and Corney

That's an interesting idea. I'd always figured the time warp was a permanent near-Earthy fixture, since we saw (at least) 2 ships go through it and end up in the same place.

Don C.

[Mikey]

Here's how I would have done the movie to make it more paletable to the average geek (like me)

Movie starts right before the old movie ended (pre bomb explosion)

We see the events leading up to the bomb

Mix that with new scenes of Zira and Corney

Finally with clever filmwork make it known the bomb explosion made a timewarp and it sucked in Zira and Corney.

Milo is not needed

[Gorn Captain]

It doesn't really bother me, or detract from me enjoying the film (it's great), I was just wondering if anyone had some sort of explanation.
Maybe the ship had just two buttons:
1. Start/stop
2. Back in time/forward in time.

And the manual just said "have you tried shutting it off and starting it up again?"
"This ship is so user friendly, three monkeys can fly it!"

[ctc]

>they couldn't have understood the intricacies of space flight.

True; but we don't know how difficult that technology was to use. Think computers: back in the day to install a program I needed at least a cursory understanding of DOS; now I just gotta hit the "yes" button when it comes up. The ship could have been like that, making it easy to get it flying. Getting it where you wanted to go afterwards might have been a trick; but I don't remember any indication that the apes had a plan other than "make it fly!"

>If you really need to get nit picky about it and require an explanation, just assume that they got help from them.

....or there could have been other, more advanced apes in the area. We never get a clear indication of how big Ape City's territory is, or if all apes are a homogenous species. In the cartoon there's a tribe of Buddhist apes on a nearby mountain. (????)

I think this is why it doesn't bother me so much; it's a gaffe, but it's not one that's been demonstrated within the story to be entirely irreconcilable.... even though we weren't presented with any sort of explanation.

Don C.

[Gorn Captain]

Even if they had some knowledge about rudimentary technology, they couldn't have understood the intricacies of space flight.
I'm no idiot, but put me at the helm of a space shuttle, and the farthest I'd get is probably crashing it in the NASA lobby gift shop. I'd probably not even get as far as getting the toilet to flush.